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Old 07-17-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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I don't necessarily want to turn this topic into a cutthroat debate, but am wondering what other people's opinions are...

why is it, in these days when large areas offer wonderful job-training/placement services for people who are blind, mentally retarded, and other similar special needs, so many whose only 'disabilities' are the direct result of their own chosen longterm illegal drug use can live off of "disability checks" and do nothing?

I don't know where the funding for this comes from (our taxes?), but what bugs me is many I know can afford numerous things due to their government checks that I as an employed taxpayer can't.

anybody have info/opinions on this?
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:05 PM
 
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many whose only 'disabilities' are the direct result of their own chosen longterm illegal drug use can live off of "disability checks" and do nothing?
I'm not sure as to who these people are since in 1996 the Congress revoked benefits for long term drug or alcohol abuse and in fact making substance abuse a disqualifying attribute for qualifying for Social Security benefits. So, perhaps you might consider rewording your OP since your argument is dated, and moot and hardly worthy of a minor debate much less a great one.


http://www.seniormag.com/legal/substance_abuse.htm
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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I'm not sure as to who these people are since in 1996 the Congress revoked benefits for long term drug or alcohol abuse and in fact making substance abuse a disqualifying attribute for qualifying for Social Security benefits. So, perhaps you might consider rewording your OP since your argument is dated, and moot and hardly worthy of a minor debate much less a great one.


Drug and Alcohol* Abuse and Social Security Disability Claims
they are a large number of people who reside in this city... they have mental problems caused by drug use, and are deemed unable to work (disabled) because of it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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It doesn't matter why you are disabled, it just matters that you are disabled. Even if someone was a user, it doesn't mean they would have not ended up with said disablity had they never used. And you know for a fact that they are disabled because of drug use? How do you know this?
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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so many whose only 'disabilities' are the direct result of their own chosen longterm illegal drug use can live off of "disability checks" and do nothing?
Because they are disabled, and that's what disability payments are for. I know a guy who has been in a wheel chair most of his life, because he did something even stupider than drugs. It involved a snowboard. People disabled in Vietnam could have gone to Canada instead. Many people's disabilities arise from their own choices. That does not disqualify them from the benefits.
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:39 PM
 
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Tia914. I know that until 1998, NY had it set up so that heroin users could get a disability check, but I haven't seen anything recent about it. Just so you know, I am a former heroin user...I am a drug addict. I used for many, many years. I never received any type of help from the federal govt, or the NM state govt, nor have I heard of anyone here that I know are addicts being able to receive these disability checks. If it existed here while I was strung out, I would have known about it!
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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Drug addiction is a real disease as determined by the AMA. Even so, addicts are treated as criminals most of the time instead of as someone who is sick. Most people would think that it would be cruel to let someone with HIV just wither up and die. It is cruel to let the addict do the same. I will always be an addict, but now I am in control, not the drug. It was a very difficult fight for many years, and sometimes still is. Every citizen of this country should be able to get help for their disease, regardless of what the disease is.
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Old 07-23-2009, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Illegal drug sells pay off, but I'm not sure I know anyone who gets rich off of disability checks.
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