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Old 07-30-2009, 07:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Tin Knocker View Post
So, let me get this straight. A private business on private property that you have no need to enter should ban smoking to prevent YOU from assaulting customers?

I think you are confused about what constitutes a PUBLIC place. PUBLIC buildings I agree should not permit smoking. An ill person, such as you seem to be MUST go there sometimes. Nobody needs to go to a casino & the truth is that if most folks wanted to go to smoke free ones they would pop up on their own.

As far as taxing the heck out of them what good is that? I find it disgusting that they tax both booze & cigs at the levels they do. Tax's are not suposed to be penalties or punishments. They are suposed to be people paying their fair share to cover the costs of running a society.

Actually anti smokers seem to cost more by constantly taking up legislative time pushing their agenda & then if a bill becomes law theres the cost of enforcing it, police, court costs ect. Perhaps we should tax anti freedom activists more.

I'm still amazed that a person with your afflictions chooses to hang out in casinos & bars. Have you ever sought counseling?
The person beside was forcing me to smoke with them. I politely asked for them to just keep it away from me. That is what most, if not all people do when I ask them. I compromise so I put up with the small amount of smoke that comes my way. This person was rude and disrespectful. They purposely were blowing it in my direction. I did not assault them any more than they assaulted me. I do not know how having liquid thrown on you is assault. It doesn't hurt you. It is not like I punched him or anything.

 
Old 07-30-2009, 07:53 AM
 
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I dont agree with outlawing cigs. This is America where we have the right to choose what we do to our bodies. If someone wants to smoke and fill their lungs with chemicals, I say its their choice. I do agree that smoking should be banned from public places though.
In Phoenix, where I grew up, they have now done this. You can not smoke in any public buildings. This includes bars, restaurants etc. In other words, anywhere where smokers come in contact with anyone. That is one of the few things I can commend Phoenix on. I wish Vegas would follow suit.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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... Since he really was a jerk about it, I started building up anger inside. Once my eyes starting watering, and I started getting sick from it, I finally could not take it anymore. The waitress came by at that time, and I ended up throwing my whole drink on him ( the rum and coke only, not the glass) and promptly leaving right away. It didn't matter, security got me and now I am banned from this casino for the rest of my life because of his lack of courtesy and respect. He completely deserved it IMO, I did not.
You have some serious entitlement issues.

Guess what - you're responsible for your own actions. YOU threw the drink on the other player. YOU chose violence instead of walking away. It was YOUR own actions that got you banned, and you absolutely deserved it.

I can't believe you actually wrote that. Your "me me me" attitude is EXACTLY what's wrong with this country. It's no wonder you want to ban cigarettes altogether.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry NC/Randolph NJ/Cape Coral FL
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No, prohibition did not work neither will this.
Plus if they were made illegal have you any idea how many people you are putting out of work...even the slightest clue??

Someone smoking across the street from me is not affecting my health anymore then the taxi that just blew by..it's all BS
 
Old 07-30-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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I have already said in a prior post that I was slightly wrong in completely banning cigarettes. They should be banned in all public places like Phoenix, Arizona does. However, I now agree they should be available for sale. As long as I do not have to be around it, I am content with that. However, I will make sure from now on I NEVER move in a place where anyone smokes.


This is the proper way to take care of it. I would be happy enough if Nevada followed suit...

http://www.kpho.com/news/13227363/detail.html
 
Old 07-30-2009, 09:50 AM
 
Location: nc
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I smoke and I want them outlawed....I hate them. I do feel bad that my uncles make them though and that means they would be out of a job...but truly I WANT THEM TO BE ILLEGAL!!!!!!! I know some people can smoke once or twice a month and don't get addicted, but I think most people that smoke are addicted right? I mean, these things are not only killing us smokers, they're hurting people we love that don't smoke. My husband and I always smoke outside at our house but I smoke in the car and in bars, I don't smoke at restaurants though. Suicide and murder are illegal, so should cigarettes be. Can't wait to kick them for good!
 
Old 07-30-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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The new fire-safe cigarettes are, supposedly, even more harmful than the others.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/rep...cigarette-laws
Riiiight. You know who is spearheading the campaign against them, don't you? The very corporations who will lose money if the smokeless ciggies stay on the market.

Way to buy in to the propaganda!
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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I smoke and I want them outlawed....I hate them. I do feel bad that my uncles make them though and that means they would be out of a job...but truly I WANT THEM TO BE ILLEGAL!!!!!!! I know some people can smoke once or twice a month and don't get addicted, but I think most people that smoke are addicted right? I mean, these things are not only killing us smokers, they're hurting people we love that don't smoke. My husband and I always smoke outside at our house but I smoke in the car and in bars, I don't smoke at restaurants though. Suicide and murder are illegal, so should cigarettes be. Can't wait to kick them for good!
+1 for you. I just had to rep you on this one since it is an excellent post. It is really hard for non smokers to be around smokers because most, at least the ones I have met, are so addicted to them it is unbelievable. They literally can not even go a few hours without a cigarette. For example, I used to have friends who did not drink, but smoked. They would complain about my drinking, and vice versa. The difference is I am not an addict like a smoker. I go to work, and I do not have to drink there, in fact, I can't unless I want to be unemployed. I also can go days without drinking just fine, where as I have literally had multiple friends who were out of smokes, and money, search ashtrays for butts to smoke. One thing I have always been adamant on is I will never support smoking in any way. It is the principal of the thing. I will buy someone a beer, but I will be damned to buy someone a cigarette. I sincerely hope you do kick the habit. As I said, smokers who are not in denial feel the same way you do.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: nc
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Amen...I know I hate that...searching for a butt...it is so sad that something can control us like that. Maybe this is enough motivation to try my gum today. I've had it for about a month now just waiting for something to motivate me to try again...I didn't want to try it until I thought I had enough reason too because I want to be successful. Thanks vegas who knows, maybe this time will be my great success.
 
Old 07-30-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default cigarette smoking is patriotic

States get a huge chunk of money from the cigarette tax to apply to the general fund, health care and education. My goodness, if smoking was outlawed our taxes would go through the roof and interfere with airline traffic.

Give every self sacrificing smoker a pat on the back for their contribution to society!
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