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Old 08-22-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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'I think homosexuality is a normal variation, a naturally occuring thing. People can choose, for every reason, to try and live a straight life (social pressure, kids, family, community mores) but inside, they will still feel attracted to the same sex more than the "opposite."'

REPLY: It has been proven that the deviance can be corrected because many thousands have exited the lifestyle and are happy without it . A question you should have asked your male h.s. friend was : If you had the choice knowing that you could successfully get out of h.s.-ity and be a content heterosexual, would you be willing to go thru the hard work necessary to accomplish that ?

 
Old 08-22-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley,az summer/east valley Az winter
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'Little Dolphin has spoken. Go out and be nice to one another..we're all warm-blooded mammals sharing a fragile planet for but a brief period of time'

REPLY: Isnt a Mammal something that swims around in the water ? How am I a 'Mammal' if i live on land and just occasionally swim in the water when i go to the beach ?! I think someone was having you on if they told you you were a Mammal !
Think rvlover better look up what a mammal is~ if you aren't one that means you are a reptile?

And just because someone who was gay is living a straight lifestyle doesn't mean he is necessarily happy~ just you think so~ but then you do not even know what a mammal is!
 
Old 08-22-2009, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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'I think homosexuality is a normal variation, a naturally occuring thing. People can choose, for every reason, to try and live a straight life (social pressure, kids, family, community mores) but inside, they will still feel attracted to the same sex more than the "opposite."'

REPLY: It has been proven that the deviance can be corrected because many thousands have exited the lifestyle and are happy without it . A question you should have asked your male h.s. friend was : If you had the choice knowing that you could successfully get out of h.s.-ity and be a content heterosexual, would you be willing to go thru the hard work necessary to accomplish that ?
No it hasn't.

You keep saying that, and I've shown you where the APA, actual doctors have proven it doesn't work.

Yet you keep saying it. Go ahead chicken little, the sky is falling.
 
Old 08-22-2009, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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REPLY: Isnt a Mammal something that swims around in the water ? How am I a 'Mammal' if i live on land and just occasionally swim in the water when i go to the beach ?! I think someone was having you on if they told you you were a Mammal !

Huh? Do you have 'mammal' confused with fish? Google "mammal' and I think you'll see that the human species are indeed, warm-blooded mammals. Are you perhaps a different life form--from Planet Fammal? Or Mammish?
 
Old 08-22-2009, 08:38 PM
 
Location: In The Outland
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Isnt a Mammal something that swims around in the water ? How am I a 'Mammal' if i live on land and just occasionally swim in the water when i go to the beach ?! I think someone was having you on if they told you you were a Mammal !
OMG ! All creatures that have teats, boobs, breasts etc that their babies feed from are mammals and that includes people.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 02:42 AM
 
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Gays are just another part of our population. I am sure not everyone was intended to reproduce. Gay males have a function in society as do female lesbians. Its illogical to think that everyone should have sex with the opposite sex just because only a man and a woman produce a child. Sometimes , sex is just sex and it doesn't hurt me or you that gays want to have sex with their gay friend or their sex toy. If they are adult, they have the right to sleep with another willing adult be it man , woman ,or alien. We are not their mommy and daddy telling them "Don't sleep with your boyfriend cus hes a boy like you. You're going to get cooties". Get real.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 03:00 AM
 
Location: California
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It's not somthing worth worrying about. If you disregard the whole "adam and eve" thing it's possible that there were "sexes" different than what we have now somewhere along the evolutionary path.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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gay-ness can be found everywhere in nature, so that includes humans. We just make a huge deal out of it, where animals don't...we should just accept it and move on; treat it exactly like we do hetero, why not?
 
Old 08-23-2009, 05:38 AM
 
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I remember having this debate some time ago in a social science class. Gay people argue that they do not choose to be gay, yet being gay or having an attraction to the same species is clearly not a behaviour intended by nature in a species that is suppose to reproduce using a male and a female. So if gays do not choose to be gay, and it is not the way nature intended most people to use their bodies, otherwise we would all be hermaprodites, then is gay a disease, hormonal imbalance, or something else. I lean towards Hormonal imbalance or mild disease of the mind but am want to hear other views.
Firstly, legitimate mental health professionals agree that heterosexuality and homosexuality are BOTH natural occurances in the human race. See link to APA below.

Secondly, there is NO diagnosis code for homosexuality, so it is not a "disease" or "hormonal imbalance" in the least. I invite you to list a diagnosis code from any recognized source to prove me wrong, including the ICD, ICPC, DSM-IV, or any other source.

Lastly, nature doesn't "intend" anything, it is a not a sentient being and cannot think, intend, or plan ahead.

From the APA...

What Is Sexual Orientation?
Sexual orientation is an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, or affectional attraction toward others. It is easily distinguished from other components of sexuality including biological sex, gender identity (the psychological sense of being male or female), and the social gender role (adherence to cultural norms for feminine and masculine behavior).
Sexual orientation exists along a continuum that ranges from exclusive heterosexuality to exclusive homosexuality and includes various forms of bisexuality. Bisexual persons can experience sexual, emotional, and affectional attraction to both their own sex and the opposite sex. Persons with a homosexual orientation are sometimes referred to as gay (both men and women) or as lesbian (women only).
Sexual orientation is different from sexual behavior because it refers to feelings and self-concept. Individuals may or may not express their sexual orientation in their behaviors.
What Causes a Person To Have a Particular Sexual Orientation?
There are numerous theories about the origins of a person's sexual orientation. Most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors. In most people, sexual orientation is shaped at an early age. There is also considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality.
It's important to recognize that there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation, and the reasons may be different for different people.
Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

APA Help Center - Health & Emotional Wellness - "Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality"

My view? People should educate themselves on matters before making comments.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 05:48 AM
 
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REPLY: It has been proven that the deviance can be corrected because many thousands have exited the lifestyle and are happy without it . A question you should have asked your male h.s. friend was : If you had the choice knowing that you could successfully get out of h.s.-ity and be a content heterosexual, would you be willing to go thru the hard work necessary to accomplish that ?
REPLY: horsehockey.

Every single "born again straight" person I've come across, the ones who don't commit suicide anyways, are either...

1. Never homosexual to begin with, and are either bi-sexual or were merely participating in biological sex (medical term, see my above reply to the OP).

2. Never homosexual in the first place and are straight plants working for the Christian Church.

Also, would you be willing to go through the hard work of becoming gay? What? No? Of course not, it disgusts you, just as living with someone of the opposite gender and/or having sex with them disgusts gays.

BTW, I would LOVE to see your legitimate, scientifically based source for "thousands" leaving a "lifestyle", when it is hardly a matter of choice nor a "lifestyle". Do that and I'll show you MY sources for an estimated ten to thirty million legitimate homosexuals in this country.
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