Being Gay, Choice, Disease or Other? (paycheck, agent, death, abuse)

[AxisMundi]

Originally Posted by Kendrick G

im still trying to see how a man's sperm and another man's sperm can make a baby; when women have sex unless they are using a ***** they are really masturbating each other; and that a baby will not make

ohh and kill that gay rights noise; no one in this thread is saying that homosexuals shouldnt have the same rights as heteros; this topic is about either being born gay or its a choice all that other stuff is irrelevant to the topic;

1. YOU are the only one stating anything about sperm. Reproduction doesn't enter into this discussion, sicne there are heteroes who either choose not to, or cannot have, babies.

2. I suggest you read back. Marriage is always part of any such discussion. Gays are being denied the Civil Right to marry in all but five US States.

[brightdoglover]

I don't think preaching to the not-choir is goint to convince anyone of anything. One's religious beliefs are just that- beliefs. No more concrete than anyone else's and hardly constitute debate, never mind "great debate."
That said, I fail to see how the poster who won't compromise his/her soul is compromised by other people's actions or laws that apply fairly to all citizens.

[beachmel]

Originally Posted by Kendrick G

I don't fight Jesus Christ battles. he fights mines. I am his child, he is my father. Jesus saved me, I didn't save him. Jesus doesn't need me to justify who he is, why he came to save me, and why he died on the cross and rose for me. My saviour is Christ. not man. I am not judging just telling the truth. You can not stand for Christ and accept wrong. I am not compremising my soul for anyone.

There are some of us here who feel as you do. We have no intention of ever being cruel to someone because of their sexual preferences, but we're not about to throw our faith and belief system out of the window by lying and saying we agree with that lifestyle either. By the way, if you're following the Bible, remember the passage which reads, "Do not throw pearls before swine". Not for one minute do I take that literally. There are very few people I would call swine, however, there is no point in arguing with someone who is obviously content in their own beliefs.

It really is pointless to argue about Christianity, God, etc. with some folks. I have seen more Christians end up looking like bullies and intolerant creeps by constantly pushing their belief system down someone's throat, than I care to remember. That isn't the way we're supposed to do things. How do you "preach" God's love while bullying someone? We are supposed to "preach by example". Be kind.....and don't waste your time and energy... "pearls before swine" ....."beating a dead horse", when there are people around you who really do want and need your love. Besides, you don't have to have someone's permission to pray for them.....quietly, and in your own home...They don't have to even know you're praying for them. Just be sure that you're praying God's will.....not yours. Be blessed.

[NEWARK MAGIC]

Originally Posted by Kendrick G

#1...I think you're trying to go around the fact...that heteros have the CHOICE not to...or just can't due to MEDICAL reasons....Homos can't because they aint MEANT to reproduce......


#2 Move ya silly asses to 1 of them 5 states...get married..and take ya ass back where you came from....

Originally Posted by beachmel

There are some of us here who feel as you do. We have no intention of ever being cruel to someone because of their sexual preferences, but we're not about to throw our faith and belief system out of the window by lying and saying we agree with that lifestyle either. By the way, if you're following the Bible, remember the passage which reads, "Do not throw pearls before swine". Not for one minute do I take that literally. There are very few people I would call swine, however, there is no point in arguing with someone who is obviously content in their own beliefs.

It really is pointless to argue about Christianity, God, etc. with some folks. I have seen more Christians end up looking like bullies and intolerant creeps by constantly pushing their belief system down someone's throat, than I care to remember. That isn't the way we're supposed to do things. How do you "preach" God's love while bullying someone? We are supposed to "preach by example". Be kind.....and don't waste your time and energy... "pearls before swine" ....."beating a dead horse", when there are people around you who really do want and need your love. Besides, you don't have to have someone's permission to pray for them.....quietly, and in your own home...They don't have to even know you're praying for them. Just be sure that you're praying God's will.....not yours. Be blessed.

That's all fine and dandy. But according to the Old Testament book of Leviticus an act of homosexuality is punishable by death. Your personal belief system (I'm assuming the bible), in no way, shape, or form advocates a "live and let live" approach concerning homosexuality.

Also, you stated that you don't interpret certain passages of the bible literally. Which one's do you take literally; and what is your system of picking and choosing what to take literally or not?

This is common behavior of many, but not all Christians. That is: when something in the bible suits their purposes they quote and follow it as a divine literal truth and tenet, but when it is not practical they will say, "Oh, that isn't meant to be taken literally."

If you want people to take you seriously when you try to inject Christian religous rhetoric into a debate: Be credible and be a fanatic, don't pick and choose what only suits your specific and current agenda. If you are going to use religion and want to be credible, go all out without pulling any punches. The bible says to kill 'em so why don't you say either you agree with the bible, or just admit that there is a part in the bible that you think God got wrong? Those people that you were calling intolerant creeps, are intolerant creeps. But if you follow the bible and do what "God says" to do, that is exactly how you will be perceived: An intolerant creep.

[artsyguy]

The Bible has a lot of interesting stuff:

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. —Luke 16:18


DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
• DEUTERONOMY 22:22
If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
• MARK 10:1-12
Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.
• LEVITICUS 18:19
The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
• MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.
• DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.

[AxisMundi]

Wow, no wonder the divorce rate is so high now.

[artsyguy]

I agree. I have no respect for them. They not only could spread disease but they have no regard for human bonding or emotion. People are not objects with holes you stick your stick into. Unfortunately, that is how too many straight and down low dudes see things.

Originally Posted by Kendrick G

since folks are just going off the topic; ill just say i have no respect for those in the closet, down low dudes that know they are gay but dont want to be talked about do they sleep with women then sleep with men with no protection and spread all kinds of diseases; now those dudes need to be hated on and judged

[Becca Bear 72]

Many people that are gay / or lesbian were sexually abused as children / or as adults. For example: a woman is sexually abused by men, and turns to women. A boy / or man is abused by a women or a man and turns to the same sex. It messes with your mind when you are abused and so you go for it. Also some boys are naturally more feminine and some girls are more butch (Tomboys). Some boys start trying on their mother's dresses when they are young, and they start to like it. Some people Experiment with same sex relationship starting at a young age, and end up that way later in life.

[AxisMundi]

Originally Posted by Becca Bear 72

Many people that are gay / or lesbian were sexually abused as children / or as adults. For example: a woman is sexually abused by men, and turns to women. A boy / or man is abused by a women or a man and turns to the same sex. It messes with your mind when you are abused and so you go for it. Also some boys are naturally more feminine and some girls are more butch (Tomboys). Some boys start trying on their mother's dresses when they are young, and they start to like it. Some people Experiment with same sex relationship starting at a young age, and end up that way later in life.

Your comments have already been debunked earlier in the thread.

[Omaha Rocks]

Originally Posted by AxisMundi

Your comments have already been debunked earlier in the thread.

...as have most of yours. But still, you keep talking.