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Old 08-24-2009, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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I have always wondered why we don't remove anything that "might cause a health problem" Got a cold ? Slice off yer nose! Earache ? Grab some ether, and a machete. Tongues, and mouths have some really nasty germs, as well as the lower intestine. So, are we to believe that cervical cancer was an epidemic in ancient cultures that didn't maim the old "dilly" worm ?

 
Old 08-24-2009, 09:04 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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And how does it promote better health?
That's the whole point. It DOESN'T.

What DOES apparently promote better health is circumcision. And that is the point (pun intended) of the article, and of this thread.
 
Old 08-25-2009, 12:31 AM
 
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Let people make their own decisions concerning their bodies. So leave the little bundle of joy and the skin that covers the head of his penis alone. When he turns 18 he can decide for himself if he wants it there or not.

Is Circumcision Necessary?
 
Old 08-25-2009, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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And how does it promote better health?
The study shows that the risk is significantly cut to pass or contract HIV for a circumcised male to a woman, versus a un-circumcised male. The risk also goes down for other STD's.

The problem with the study, is that it was done in Africa. The large majority of HIV cases in the United States is male to male transmission. The study showed that being circumcised has little to no effect on homosexual HIV transmission.
 
Old 08-25-2009, 06:23 AM
 
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why do people talk about this so much> the ONLY person you need to convince is your spouse.
 
Old 08-25-2009, 07:13 AM
 
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I'm not sure who did this study and for what purpose they did it?

Bottom line: Europe doesn't have any more of an epidemic than does the US in terms of HIV. And men are normally intact. My husband is intact and I can tell you, it's much better than being circumcised for him and for me... ok maybe too much info, but whatever.

I just don't believe in genital mutilation period. And after seeing my newborn's very very small penis, I couldn't even imagine taking a slicer to it. It makes no sense at all! It's just a strange concept to me.
 
Old 08-25-2009, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I'm not sure who did this study and for what purpose they did it?

Bottom line: Europe doesn't have any more of an epidemic than does the US in terms of HIV. And men are normally intact. My husband is intact and I can tell you, it's much better than being circumcised for him and for me... ok maybe too much info, but whatever.

I just don't believe in genital mutilation period. And after seeing my newborn's very very small penis, I couldn't even imagine taking a slicer to it. It makes no sense at all! It's just a strange concept to me.
I didn't say Europe, I said Africa.
 
Old 08-25-2009, 07:22 AM
 
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So... If it could be conclusively shown that circumcision would reduce the spread of HIV in Africa, by a mere 10%, would it not be worth considering?
 
Old 08-25-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Penobscot Bay, the best place in Maine!
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Oddly enough, I thought it was CONDOMS that helped to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases in sexually active persons...
 
Old 08-25-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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Oddly enough, I thought it was CONDOMS that helped to prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases in sexually active persons...
Pfffttt... That was so "last decade"! They needed something new to spend several million dollars of government grant money to study. Come on!
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