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Unread 09-11-2009, 08:07 PM
 
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effort? lol how gracious!

speaking of spitting, can they do it in your direction? they "tried" to not hit you, but hey! you can't please all people
Riiiiight.

I make an effort and step away so as to not offend, which you try to compare to someone spitting at me.

Your intillectual dishonesty knows no bounds.
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Unread 09-11-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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Riiiiight.

I make an effort and step away so as to not offend, which you try to compare to someone spitting at me.

Your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds.
unless there was a peer review of my intellectual dishonesty, i don't believe it


i didn't say they would try and spit on you, i'm just saying hey sometimes the wind comes up... they tried to avoid hitting you right? that's all any of us can hope for right?
right??
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Unread 09-12-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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unless there was a peer review of my intellectual dishonesty, i don't believe it


i didn't say they would try and spit on you, i'm just saying hey sometimes the wind comes up... they tried to avoid hitting you right? that's all any of us can hope for right?
right??
Good boy, now you're learning. Peer review is an esential part of the Scientific Method. Where should I mail your gold star sticker to?
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Unread 09-13-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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i hate gas taxes- thats one thing you CAN't choose not to use
Yes you can. I choose not to use gas all the time.

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fine not everyone, but alot of people keep bringing up public transportation as if its a universal solution. i did get a car till i was25, but then i needed one. it wasn't a choice.
Public transportation is one solution but it's not the only one. People walk and bike many places. It's not been that long ago that people rode horses when they needed to travel long distances. You chose to get a car and while it may have been more practical than another mode of transportation or choosing to move closer to work, it was still a choice.

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i love how everyone walks around forgetting not everyone lives in a ****ing city!
not to mention some suburbs do not have mass transport either.
I don't live in a big city (pop 30k) and our public transportation is terrible on the best of days. I choose to not own a car and do just fine. It definitely limits my options for living arrangements since I need to be able to walk to work but that was a factor in my decision when I made the choice to not get a car.
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Unread 09-13-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: The Midst of Insanity
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Yes you can. I choose not to use gas all the time.



Public transportation is one solution but it's not the only one. People walk and bike many places. It's not been that long ago that people rode horses when they needed to travel long distances. You chose to get a car and while it may have been more practical than another mode of transportation or choosing to move closer to work, it was still a choice.



I don't live in a big city (pop 30k) and our public transportation is terrible on the best of days. I choose to not own a car and do just fine. It definitely limits my options for living arrangements since I need to be able to walk to work but that was a factor in my decision when I made the choice to not get a car.
Public transportation is not an option for those who live in areas where PT is not accessible, is very limited, and does not run during certain times and even certain days. For instance, I do not have a bus line anywhere near my home (the nearest one is over 8 miles away) and besides, I work midnights. The buses generally run on Mon-Fri 7 a.m-7 p.m and only until 2 p.m on Saturdays...only during the morning on Sundays to cater to the church crowd. During the weekend, only a few of the lines run-the ones that go downtown, to the churches, and to the shopping mall.

Practically everywhere in MI is notorious for having terrible, ineffficient Public Transportation and my city is no exception-and where I live is considered to have one of the best in the state!

Walking and biking? Not safe for a female who works midnights and lives in an area where there are virtually no street-lights (I'm just outside the city limits). Also the fact there's a serial rapist in the area targeting woman who are alone at night. During the winter, the streets are never plowed or salted (budget cuts) so traveling can be a problem when there's a fresh 10" of snow on the ground. This is bad enough to drive in; never mind walking or biking.

I hate having to rely on a vehicle, believe you me, and hubby and I want to move somewhere that, amongst other things, has some form of reliable PT. But until then, we have to make do and that means driving.
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Unread 09-13-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Ohio
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smoke does make its way around. especially during rush hour when i am caught in slow traffic and the mook in front of me wafts down to my car.
or i was sitting on my porch and the smoke from next door somehow got to my house.
or how about where i worked this one woman was a heavy smoker and every hour or so she;d go out smoke a cigarette come back inside and stink to high hell
I have been at traffic lights numerous times when someone in front of me was smoking and I have yet to have it "waft down to my car". This is not even logical. The smoke dissipates prior to getting close to my vehicle.
Again, you would have to be within less than 2 - 3 feet for the neighbors smoke to have it travel to your sensitive nose.
As to the heavy smoking co-worker, where do you work that you get a break every hour or so??? I want to work there!!! I don't know what to tell you about this one. It's her right to smoke. Maybe you offend her in some way and she's nonchalantly getting you back for it!!!
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Unread 09-13-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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I have been at traffic lights numerous times when someone in front of me was smoking and I have yet to have it "waft down to my car". This is not even logical. The smoke dissipates prior to getting close to my vehicle.
Again, you would have to be within less than 2 - 3 feet for the neighbors smoke to have it travel to your sensitive nose.
As to the heavy smoking co-worker, where do you work that you get a break every hour or so??? I want to work there!!! I don't know what to tell you about this one. It's her right to smoke. Maybe you offend her in some way and she's nonchalantly getting you back for it!!!
You're speaking to a poster who thinks that laws should be made dependant on them being "offended".

Don't expect too much in the way of logic or truth from that poster.
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Unread 09-13-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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Public transportation is not an option for those who live in areas where PT is not accessible, is very limited, and does not run during certain times and even certain days. For instance, I do not have a bus line anywhere near my home (the nearest one is over 8 miles away) and besides, I work midnights. The buses generally run on Mon-Fri 7 a.m-7 p.m and only until 2 p.m on Saturdays...only during the morning on Sundays to cater to the church crowd. During the weekend, only a few of the lines run-the ones that go downtown, to the churches, and to the shopping mall.

Practically everywhere in MI is notorious for having terrible, ineffficient Public Transportation and my city is no exception-and where I live is considered to have one of the best in the state!

Walking and biking? Not safe for a female who works midnights and lives in an area where there are virtually no street-lights (I'm just outside the city limits). Also the fact there's a serial rapist in the area targeting woman who are alone at night. During the winter, the streets are never plowed or salted (budget cuts) so traveling can be a problem when there's a fresh 10" of snow on the ground. This is bad enough to drive in; never mind walking or biking.

I hate having to rely on a vehicle, believe you me, and hubby and I want to move somewhere that, amongst other things, has some form of reliable PT. But until then, we have to make do and that means driving.
I am a female who also works midnights. I would have to walk further to get to the bus than the mile I walk to get to work because the bus doesn't run in my neighborhood. The bus here goes 6am to 6pm Monday through Saturday and doesn't run on Sundays at all. There aren't really bus stops either--you just stand on the street and try to wave the bus down while hoping they notice you and stop. They don't stop in all areas though so you have to be familiar enough with the route to know where you have to be in order to get on the bus.

I am certainly not unsympathetic to those who can't (for whatever reason) use PT but assuming you are an adult, you do have a choice in the matter even if it's by making a choice in where you live or work. A big factor in where I live was how walkable it is which was important enough to me that I sacrificed in other areas just so I wouldn't need a car. Since I choose not to own a car, I am also more limited in where I work (and changing jobs would most likely require me to move as well). For some, the trade of a cheaper house or better neighborhood makes having a longer commute a better solution but no matter the reason, it's still a choice.
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Unread 09-13-2009, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It's nothing to walk five or six miles on a daily basis. I did that plenty as a teenager, since my girlfriend lived six miles away from me.
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Unread 09-13-2009, 04:58 PM
 
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Firstly, one doesn;t always ahve a choice to move. Either the neighborhood might be just to damn dangerous or one doesn't have the wherewithall to move.

Sorry, I do NOT see not moving into a crime ridden neighborhood a "choice".
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