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Old 09-30-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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Says you. It's worked out quite well for me, as opposed to when I was married. Just because you have outdated prudish opinions about sex and relationships doesn't mean the rest of us do.
If you go back and re-read the list I gave, youll find no 'prudish opinions about sex and relationships' but rather, objective concerns based on the self-serving Philosophy that Shackin' encourages . Its the minority of people that it works out good for , but lets admit it...its all centered around skirting real commitment thats based on putting others needs before our own , a loving committed environment for children to grow up in, and a moral foundation which even the U.S. Justice System recognizes as an important and a credible venue . Marriage offers these thing while elusive Playing Marriage can not ; cohabitating may be part of our pop-culture ... but it, like many other things today, is willful self deception having profound consequences on individuals and a Nation at large with the catalyst being narcissism and apathy . Can you realize this and be willing to stand against our out of control Society for your own best interest ? I hope you can and will for your own sake. Giving God a chance with your life is a very wise move in the right direction because he has your best interests at hand. Regards.

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Old 09-30-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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^ Yup, the US is going to hell in a handbasket because folks are living together
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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a Its the minority of people that it works out good for , but lets admit it...its all centered around skirting real commitment thats based on putting others needs before our own ,.
If two people wish to have a relationship with each other that suits their own personal needs, what does that make YOU, if you want to force them to structure their own personal lives in a way that would be comforting to your own missionary position? Are you concerned here with your own needs, or putting others needs before your own?
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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'Similarily, you marry your mate selection because your church, your family, and your domestic laws will find ways to punish you if you do not.
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REPLY: This statement is absurd ; no one twists your arm to get married. Certainly not a Church that follows The Bible . The Bible in 1 Cor. 7 puts Singleness as a high calling and a life that can be fulfilling and joyful in fact.... in addition to upholding the ideals of marriage. You shouldnt make a strawman arguement like you did , then proceed to capitalize on it as if it were the truth. It is not. Further, you should not let anyone like family ultimately dictate who you should marry --- YOU should decide that based on clear-headed objective criteria and since it is such an important profound commitment to another, it should always be preceded with a good formal Counselling Course in Pre-Marital because alot of wisdom is required in making this decision. Disregarding Hollywoods view and method of getting married is a smart move also.
Oh come on RV, our society in general pushes a legal tie between couples. It gives additional stability to the culture, society, and government. This is one of the curious things I see in the gay marriage issue. It seems the government would want it enacted a marriage law to give another layer of stability based on law.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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RVlover: This statement is absurd ; no one twists your arm to get married. Certainly not a Church that follows The Bible

RVlover, go back and read your own posts. Your entire existence in your tiny one-dimensional little world is dedicated to twisting the arms of everybody, acting as a spokesman for your church. Which follows the Bible.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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RVlover: This statement is absurd ; no one twists your arm to get married. Certainly not a Church that follows The Bible
Well you know what this means!!!

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RVlover, go back and read your own posts. Your entire existence in your tiny one-dimensional little world is dedicated to twisting the arms of everybody, acting as a spokesman for your church. Which follows the Bible.
And again!!!


Seriously though, marriage as we use to know it is dead and the last thing we have is a better world or society as a result of an animalistic attitude which has further degenerated humankind. The family unit's downfall was always the traditional component in the destruction of many of the past great civilizations. The present one will be no different here shortly.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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^love the Peter Max blue meanie hands......sorry, carry on!
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Don't you wonder what prompted the OP to develop his theory on the death of marriage?
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Don't you wonder what prompted the OP to develop his theory on the death of marriage?
Curiosity and observation of my fellow man.

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Old 09-30-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Humans are animals. We differ from most animals in that we have learned to use our intellectual will to override some animal behaviors, but not many. Some species mate for life, others just mate opportunistically with whomever is available and move on. There is a great deal of legitimate debate on the question of whether humans are naturally monogamous, and how much of our pair bonding is imposed by intellectual override and imposed social custom.

Marriage customs are highly variable around the world, so it seems to be pretty easy to impose pair bonding on humans, whatever their nature may be. Some intellectual overrides are easy to do, some are hard. See how hard it is to make yourself hold your breath before your body takes over and denies your will. Turn and face a distant wall, and see how hard it is to will yourself to keep your eyes focused on computer screen distance when there is nothing there. Make your heart skip a beat. Don't blink.

Yet, at the same time, look how easy it was to gather up a bunch of Iowa farm boys and send them to Asia to spray burning napalm on helpless children.

If you believe that God made people to be as they must be, then go and find people who have never been told of God by a self-serving priesthood, and see how they behave. They will behave as humans were created and designed (intelligently or otherwise) to behave. This has been done and is well documented.
jtur, I find your posts to be both brilliantly articulated and very well reasoned. Your posts are a joy to read. Thank you.
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