Vegetarians are cruel (work, country, own, American)

[max's mama]

Originally Posted by LABART

No disrespect, but you only read two pages out of nine.

Sorry, just read most of the thread and still see that some people are unclear.
No disrespect.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by las vegas drunk

Why don't you put yourself in the animal's shoes? It is now time to have your throat slit, and turned upside down with your head half cut off while you wither in agonizing pain. You said you would take the former, so I guess it is ok is someone does this to you. We humans are NOT above animals as some claim.

I hunt - deer, elk, bear (sometimes). I'm curious if you do?

And if I'm successful in getting a deer, it is necessary to "field dress" out the deer - gutting them basically.

Frankly, I don't find that a problem. It is actually part of the process of the food chain -

Eating the meat of the deer is the next step in the process.

All very normal

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks

I grew up on a farm, farmed after college before pursuing a different vocation, and have family still farming.

I can assure you that the conclusions you've drawn, having read PETA propaganda, is quite incorrect.

Family farms are quite different from the largescale factory farm ones, of course.

But McDonald's & the like aren't getting supplied by a hodgepodge of small family farmers.

How much of America's meat consumption do you think comes from small family farms?

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by stan4

Yeah...you think that most of these animals have a pretty, sunshine, happy life...roaming the fields chasing butterflies?

Most of them are penned in, stand in their own feces, force-fed, given steroids...and then slaughtered.

You are so wrong about cattle. They graze in an open pasture and well maintained to be healthy until time to take them to auction. If they are to be slaughtered, they may spend a short time in a pen to be fattened.

My family raises natural fed, no hormones beef. Those cattle have a nice life & I enjoy the benefit of great steaks.

[Peggy Anne]

Originally Posted by monkey cabal

No. But I am turned on by the spectre of a tasty ribeye. Medium rare, if you please.

Yup, chow down on the e coli, blood, urea, pesticides, hormones. Keep at it, and a surgeon might get turned on making $$$$ from a quadruple coronary bypass. Yours !

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

Family farms are quite different from the largescale factory farm ones, of course.

But McDonald's & the like aren't getting supplied by a hodgepodge of small family farmers.

How much of America's meat consumption do you think comes from small family farms?

Most of the beef processed comes from the small operator.

[max's mama]

Originally Posted by Rakin

Most of the beef processed comes from the small operator.

No way. You know that it's not true.
Most meat Americans eat come from mass produced farms. People keep bringing up McDs, but it's not just that. Do you think any American diner like Denny's, or chain restaurants like Applebees use beef or chicken from locally raised cows??? They would never charge so little for a hamburger if that was the case. Most beef that Americans eat has hormones in it, unless it's an organic restaurant, or they buy it from local farms.

[Peggy Anne]

Bone Appetite

Man's Inhumanity to Animals with Veda Stram by Julia Griffin

[Kele]

Originally Posted by monkey cabal

Labart raises a good point. I suspect that many in the vegetarian crowd hold this viewpoint as the truth. They think human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.

We're not a disease. We're an accident of evolution. As a matter of fact, many biological anthropologists believe that we became what we are because our ancestors evolved into hunters and began eating a lot of meat rather than scavenging carnivore kills--google the "expensive tissue hypothesis." The enormous amounts of protein allowed for brain size increase, without which, we'd still be scavenging, barely bipedal beings.

BTW, I am a vegetarian myself.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Peggy Anne

Bone Appetite

And Bon Appetite to you!!!!