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10-09-2009, 11:21 PM
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Michelle Obama's Slavery Ancestory
Now it is said that Michelle's great great grand father was a slave owner. And that her great great grand father and her great great grand mother had a child. Was the product a love child or a child of control and dominion? That is not being discussed. Shall we introduce Sally Hemmings? Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings
Why should I care? My ancestory came from Germany, of peasants without a chance, of indenture and servitude, of lifelone obligation without any real chance of freedom. Yet I am supposedly free.
Do my parents love me? After decades of power struggle with racial tension where have we come?
Why have we focused on aspects of life beyond our contemplation? I did not know who my great great grand parents were, I know not why they did what they did. Yet I speculate that they have been lost into a world of white occupation and oppression...white slavery nonetheless. Yet this shall not be spoken in a politically correct world dominated by other ideas.
Why does America no longer love me when my American parents do? My wife being of Native American ancestory asks why does this all matter. My wife also being of Irish ancestory asks why should we not consider that Michelle's ancestor, he being a slave owner, makes her a part of all this. My wife says we none of her ancestory owned a slave. I am unable to trace to my ancestory in Germany to answer except to say that those who I can trace were displaced during the greatest oppression some say known to recent time. Yet why do we not care what happens in the Orientalism that we, as American pigs, seem fit the consume?
Do we love each other? Do we love our slaves?
Michelle is a woman, she has children. May we all know and support each other in our societal roles.
Why should Michelle's ancestory matter to any of us? We are Americans!
My wife is not my slave, nor are my children. And I am not a slave unto them. Ain't it about time that the USA gets over the concept and look at what is REALLY going on?
Give me good policy and half way reasonable decision making and that is all that can be asked.
I'm sure others have seen my threads. What is a collective right? I demand that our collective rights get over this malfeasant idea of slavery least you choose to buy only an entirely American made product.
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10-10-2009, 06:28 AM
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Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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Your Point?
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10-10-2009, 06:45 AM
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Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by checking out
Now it is said that Michelle's great great grand father was a slave owner. And that her great great grand father and her great great grand mother had a child. Was the product a love child or a child of control and dominion? That is not being discussed. Shall we introduce Sally Hemmings? Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings
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Ummm... I think you have that backwards. My understanding is that he (Jim Robinson) was born in the 1850s as a slave, not a slave owner.
Even so, I have to wonder why all of this suddenly became a hot topic in the news. It's not new information. 
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10-10-2009, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by checking out
Now it is said that Michelle's great great grand father was a slave owner. And that her great great grand father and her great great grand mother had a child. Was the product a love child or a child of control and dominion? That is not being discussed. Shall we introduce Sally Hemmings? Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings
Why should I care? My ancestory came from Germany, of peasants without a chance, of indenture and servitude, of lifelone obligation without any real chance of freedom. Yet I am supposedly free.
Do my parents love me? After decades of power struggle with racial tension where have we come?
Why have we focused on aspects of life beyond our contemplation? I did not know who my great great grand parents were, I know not why they did what they did. Yet I speculate that they have been lost into a world of white occupation and oppression...white slavery nonetheless. Yet this shall not be spoken in a politically correct world dominated by other ideas.
Why does America no longer love me when my American parents do? My wife being of Native American ancestory asks why does this all matter. My wife also being of Irish ancestory asks why should we not consider that Michelle's ancestor, he being a slave owner, makes her a part of all this. My wife says we none of her ancestory owned a slave. I am unable to trace to my ancestory in Germany to answer except to say that those who I can trace were displaced during the greatest oppression some say known to recent time. Yet why do we not care what happens in the Orientalism that we, as American pigs, seem fit the consume?
Do we love each other? Do we love our slaves?
Michelle is a woman, she has children. May we all know and support each other in our societal roles.
Why should Michelle's ancestory matter to any of us? We are Americans!
My wife is not my slave, nor are my children. And I am not a slave unto them. Ain't it about time that the USA gets over the concept and look at what is REALLY going on?
Give me good policy and half way reasonable decision making and that is all that can be asked.
I'm sure others have seen my threads. What is a collective right? I demand that our collective rights get over this malfeasant idea of slavery least you choose to buy only an entirely American made product.
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Not quite getting the point. Do we really need a policy on slavery? 
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10-10-2009, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks
Ummm... I think you have that backwards. My understanding is that he (Jim Robinson) was born in the 1850s as a slave, not a slave owner.
Even so, I have to wonder why all of this suddenly became a hot topic in the news. It's not new information. 
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And Jim Robinson's father was whom??
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10-10-2009, 04:53 PM
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Location: Anchorage, Alaska (most of the time)
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Originally Posted by checking out
And that her great great grand father and her great great grand mother had a child.
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The simple fact that she calls them great great grand parents does indicate just that, yes...
If you're saying that we shouldn't look to the past to try to discredit people or whatnot, I agree 100 %. Only people with no real arguments but a lot of aggression towards someone does that in my opinion.
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10-10-2009, 08:04 PM
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And Jim Robinson's father was whom??
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I don't know.
Do you?
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10-11-2009, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by brubaker
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Me too except the world wars erased the possibilty.
BTW: Weren't other Presidents, or their spouses, involved with slave ownership? So what is the relevancy of Michelle's situation? Guess it's another way of slipping the issue onto the Nation's stage and letting us all applaude or jeer. Really seems time to move onto pressing issues, and having the Olympics in Chicago isn't one either.
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10-11-2009, 08:13 AM
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Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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If you don't water the roots the plant will die! 
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