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Old 10-20-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Pollution of the air, water and oceans!
Re-electing George W. Bush, The Ford Pinto, Kinoki foot pads, Rush Limbaugh, on and on and on...
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:39 PM
 
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In the future? We'll be disdained and ridiculed, for sure....as the first nation in modern times to willingly sit by and even actively participate in our own demise as a society. The 'killer' will be Political Correctness, working in conjucton with "societal guilt" and 'multiculturalism'.

The world will see us a 'the Nation which had it all'....a decent, shining 'city on a hill' which did so much for so many from so many places...but then allowed ourselves to be 'sucked in' to a downward spiral of guilt, self-doubt, and finally, no agreement on what it even MEANS to be an American..no ability to control our borders....and no ability to 'stand up' for ourselves.

We'll be seen as having moved from a position of being admired and 'loved' by much of the world, and at least 'respected' by the rest.....cherished by our immigrants....and the source of pride to our own population.....to our present-day situation of being reviled by much of the world, disliked and mocked; resented by our own (illegal) immigrants, as WELL as the countries that supply them....and the source of shame for much of our own population.

We'll be looked at as a dysfunctional 'has-been' society, all the more pitiful because we'll have done this to ourselves, with our 'eyes wide open'. There will be FEW tears shed for us..but much disgust for our havin 'thrown it all away'. Our misguided attempt to please EVERYONE, in the end will earn us not admiration, but disdain.

The USA will always be here..but in the future, it simply won't be a very relevant place....nor a very secure one....nor a very nice place to live. It will be a rough, tough, marginal society of conflicting ethnic groups, kept apart by a suffocating net of laws designed to 'make' us get along...and that's a shame.
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Our gas-guzzling suburbs and cars

Keeping people unnecessarily "alive" in long-term care facilities, while millions go without health care protection.

Imprisoning people for drug offenses, an out-of-control prison industry

Our biased media
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:38 AM
 
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In the future? We'll be disdained and ridiculed, for sure....as the first nation in modern times to willingly sit by and even actively participate in our own demise as a society. The 'killer' will be Political Correctness, working in conjucton with "societal guilt" and 'multiculturalism'.

The world will see us a 'the Nation which had it all'....a decent, shining 'city on a hill' which did so much for so many from so many places...but then allowed ourselves to be 'sucked in' to a downward spiral of guilt, self-doubt, and finally, no agreement on what it even MEANS to be an American..no ability to control our borders....and no ability to 'stand up' for ourselves.

We'll be seen as having moved from a position of being admired and 'loved' by much of the world, and at least 'respected' by the rest.....cherished by our immigrants....and the source of pride to our own population.....to our present-day situation of being reviled by much of the world, disliked and mocked; resented by our own (illegal) immigrants, as WELL as the countries that supply them....and the source of shame for much of our own population.

We'll be looked at as a dysfunctional 'has-been' society, all the more pitiful because we'll have done this to ourselves, with our 'eyes wide open'. There will be FEW tears shed for us..but much disgust for our havin 'thrown it all away'. in the end will earn us not admiration, but disdain.

The USA will always be here..but in the future, it simply won't be a very relevant place....nor a very secure one....nor a very nice place to live. It will be a rough, tough, marginal society of conflicting ethnic groups, kept apart by a suffocating net of laws designed to 'make' us get along...and that's a shame.
the bolded part i agree with where people are artificially forced into interaction such as busing in school children from different districts, people being criticized for having ethnic or white communities etc and then just general *******ness of human beings anyways.

though i don't agree it will be as bad as you say, i think you are just stating how you personally feel it is. i think america will be a lot like brazil.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think our extended overseas Empire will be our downfall and eventually bring us nothing but humiliation and shame. Another thing will be our replacing the Christian (and other) God at the center of our worship with Mammon including our economic socialization of high finance.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:15 AM
 
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John Demjanjuk
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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It will be either our religious secularism or our fundamentalism, depending on which side prevails to ultimately write the history. We are teetering on the brink now of falling in one direction or the other.

In order to get published, historians have to be ass-kissers first and scholars second, so it will depend on which religious extremism emerges as the grand revisionists, to declare the faults of the other side.
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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John Demjanjuk
Right. Without that influential American, there would have been no Hitler.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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I just read a piece on him and I have never been so disgusted in my life. Ok, maybe once or twice but I am currently rather disgusted.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Newark, NJ
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Imprisoning people for drug offenses, an out-of-control prison industry
I agree. I think that many years from now when people look back at the "early 2000's" they will shake their heads when they read about the thousands of people who rotted away in prison for possessing marijuana and other drugs while alcohol, an obviously more dangerous substance, was socially acceptable and legal. They will look back and see the foolishness of the war on drugs. They will think about why we thought pohibition would work with drugs when we failed at trying it with alcohol. They will wonder why it took us so many years to make drugs legal when the foolishness and hypocrisy about it was so obvious. They will read about how quickly and drastically the crime rate dropped in the USA and Mexico after drugs were made legal. They will see how the rate of drug use did not rise after decriminalization but how it dropped significantly.
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