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Old 11-11-2009, 06:39 AM
 
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Yes you would.

Pedophiles are pedophiles. They're not going in to have sex, for money, with a consenting adult.
i agree with you. whether prostitution is legal or not, you will always have paedophiles. what i am suggesting is that all those cops who are hell bent on punishing victimless crimes ie transactions between consenting adults, join the fight against real crimes where there are victims ie child porn etc. it really is a no brainer
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:46 AM
 
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Legalizing prostitution will not make the ills of prostitution go away, because there are aspects of it we cannot legalize. There are tastes that some men have that will remain illegal. Besides, why pay several hundred or thousand dollars to have legal sex, when you can pay a fraction of that to have sex with a streetwalker?

tastes like what?
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:00 AM
 
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If a man wants to whip a woman and have sex with her while she bleeds, do you believe that will be legal?

In order to keep STDs at bay, I'm assuming that condoms would be required. If a legal prostitute has to have sex with a condom, where does a man go if he wants to pay for bareback sex?
i guess i'm fighting a losing battle because most people these days believe that the solution to life's problems is bureaucracy! imho, prostitution should be legal and unregulated. if you want to sleep with prostitues without a condom and you can find a prostitue who will, that is your business. on the topic of beating women, there are already laws against this!
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:30 AM
 
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i guess i'm fighting a losing battle because most people these days believe that the solution to life's problems is bureaucracy! imho, prostitution should be legal and unregulated. if you want to sleep with prostitues without a condom and you can find a prostitue who will, that is your business. on the topic of beating women, there are already laws against this!
That's not really true. People that put themsevles at risk, which results in health consequences, unfortunately involves society and not just the people involved. All industries are regulated due to the responsibility we all share for eachother.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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That's not really true. People that put themsevles at risk, which results in health consequences, unfortunately involves society and not just the people involved. All industries are regulated due to the responsibility we all share for eachother.
like i said i'm fighting a losing battle! 99.9999% of people believe that if there is a problem, the solution is either to outlaw it or regulate it. this puts a policeman or bureaucrat in front of all of our choices. ahh, the nanny state, ain't life grand?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3trddkiLqI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHAELkmHJk
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:26 AM
 
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Here is a list of countries, indicating the legality of prostutition.

100 Countries and Their Prostitution Policies - Prostitution - ProCon.org

It is pretty hard to find a country where prostitution is illegal, that we would hold up as a very shining example of a nation that we would wish to emulate.

As usual, Canada turns out to be one of the more civilized places:

Prostitution: Legal
Must be done in private places. Cannot be done in a brothel. Solicitation in public places is illegal.

Brothel Ownership: Illegal
Owning a "Bawdy House" can be punishable by up to 2 years in prison.

Pimping: Illegal
Anyone who "lives wholly or in part on the avails of prostitution of another person" can be sentenced up to 10 years.

Who would've thought that the Turks could teach the West something about freedom and social responsibility? every now and then a pleasant surprise emerges from the nanny insanity!

"An unlikely hero has emerged in Turkey to rescue victims of forced prostitution: the brothel customer. While the country's security forces are hardly renowned for their attention to human rights or sympathetic treatment of women, they have been chalking up impressive successes in finding and freeing trafficked women from brothels....
A charge-free hotline was set up in May by the UN's International Organisation for Migration (IOM) for women to call for help. It is staffed by multi-lingual operators who try to pinpoint where the women are - and then send in the police. But the second, more unexpected, factor is the chivalry of the Turkish brothel client. Since the hotline started, 74 per cent of tip-offs have come from men: customers who have learned to spot the difference between a professional prostitute, and someone who's been forced into it.
'I've been very surprised,' said Marielle Lindstrom, head of the IOM in Turkey. 'We haven't noticed this anywhere in Europe. Turkish men seem to have an old-fashioned view of women. They don't mind using prostitutes, but they want the woman to be doing this willingly. If she's found not to be doing it willingly ... it affects their pride.'"
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:34 AM
 
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like i said i'm fighting a losing battle! 99.9999% of people believe that if there is a problem, the solution is either to outlaw it or regulate it. this puts a policeman or bureaucrat in front of all of our choices. ahh, the nanny state, ain't life grand?!
If you decide to sleep with a prostitute unprotected and contract HIV, it will directly affect me. Either my health premiums will rise, or you'll go on the public dole. That's reality. I'm sorry, but I have no interest in taking care of you for the rest of your life. I would rather regulate your risky behavior.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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i'm battling to see the link between underage children being forced into prostitution and banning consenting adults from selling their services.
I gave up looking for any logical connection on page two.

It appears to me to be yet another lame attempt to connect something the OP didn't like to something that no one likes.

Same tactic as comparing a political party or figure to Hitler and Nazis.
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:48 AM
 
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If you decide to sleep with a prostitute unprotected and contract HIV, it will directly affect me. Either my health premiums will rise, or you'll go on the public dole. That's reality. I'm sorry, but I have no interest in taking care of you for the rest of your life. I would rather regulate your risky behavior.
using this argument we can ban cars, airplanes, buses and trains, bicycles, roads, meat, candy, cigarettes, gas stoves, fast food, nuts, sugar, alcohol ('cause that worked out great), ladders, football.... ad nauseum. in fact, you could pretty much ban anything using your shortsighted argument.

having said that, this is one of the reasons i oppose the idea of national health
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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Who would've thought that the Turks could teach the West something about freedom and social responsibility? every now and then a pleasant surprise emerges from the nanny insanity!

"An unlikely hero has emerged in Turkey to rescue victims of forced prostitution: the brothel customer. While the country's security forces are hardly renowned for their attention to human rights or sympathetic treatment of women, they have been chalking up impressive successes in finding and freeing trafficked women from brothels....
A charge-free hotline was set up in May by the UN's International Organisation for Migration (IOM) for women to call for help. It is staffed by multi-lingual operators who try to pinpoint where the women are - and then send in the police. But the second, more unexpected, factor is the chivalry of the Turkish brothel client. Since the hotline started, 74 per cent of tip-offs have come from men: customers who have learned to spot the difference between a professional prostitute, and someone who's been forced into it.
'I've been very surprised,' said Marielle Lindstrom, head of the IOM in Turkey. 'We haven't noticed this anywhere in Europe. Turkish men seem to have an old-fashioned view of women. They don't mind using prostitutes, but they want the woman to be doing this willingly. If she's found not to be doing it willingly ... it affects their pride.'"
Way to go Turks!

Some people seem just so hung up on sex, or appearing less the Christian for supporting the sex industry (while supporting the legal porn industry to the tune of billions a year) that they can't see past the pulpit.

Legalizing prostitution would not only create a taxable industry, but it would involve OSHA and other g'ment agiencies that protect workers as well.

At present, right here in these United States, there is an active human trafficing problem. Women (and children, but that's for another discussion) are brought into this country for the sole purpose of prostitution. These poor women, litterally sex slaves in every negative connotation of the word slave, are forced to work in the illegal sex industry.

Has making it illegal stopped it? Hardly. These poor women are afraid to go to the police for fear of being arressted, imprisoned, deported, or all of the above. Criminalizing prostitution has also driven the costs of human sex trafficing so high that it is well worth the risk to the slavers.

Every rational reason points to legalizing prostitution. Why some people are so against it, acting sometimes as if some law would be made requiring that everyone have a prostitute at elast weekly, is far beyond me.
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