With all the technology and wealth that exist today, why haven't we been able to create a social Utopia?

[PokerPlayer84]

Originally Posted by Zekester

There's no doubt about it. My brother grew up with severe learning disabilities: ADHD among others. Considering that all the cards were stacked against him he could have very easily given up, but he didn't. He still had ambition in him.

He stuck with his after school job at a major chain grocery store. After high school he asked his boss if he could be trained as a meat cutter/butcher. He did so well at that job that they made him the store manager. It was very hard work -a lot of 70-80 hr work weeks, but he didn't give up.

He didn't let anything stop him and now he owns his own home in a very nice suburb.

He is living proof that you don't have to be a brainiac or come from money to make it in this country.

That is a great story but that still does not prove that working hard means that someone can get out of poverty. There can only be x amount of people who are managers or bosses and make good money

[sickofnyc99]

To the OP, because people are still people. You can throw all the money in the world all the technology in the world but you can't make people stop being people.

[dcashley]

Originally Posted by sickofnyc99

To the OP, because people are still people. You can throw all the money in the world all the technology in the world but you can't make people stop being people.

...and that's the reason we NEED socialism and the nanny-state!

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by jtur88

Orwell said exactly that in "1984":

For if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realize that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance.


This was Emmanuel Goldstein's explanation of why 1984 featured constant and gratuitous war. To squander the wealth and productivity of the world, so the wealth could not be distributed for the well-being of the masses. Any of that starting to ring familiar, like a military-industrial complex?

Orwell didn't meet my cousins. They had this situation and used it to get REALLY good at grand theft auto, Madden NFL and rolling fatties.

There is another book that describes how to deal with the privledged minority, it's called Logan's Run.