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Old 12-28-2009, 08:07 PM
 
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I've always wanted to discuss and get more information on this subject, but I always felt "bad" about looking at it this way..but it seems like anything goes on City Data lol

I do ask this in just the.. nicest way possible?

When areas...cities, towns, etc..are majority of black/hispanic, it's typically a high crime/drug area. Why? How did this happen?

I'm sure we'll get some mean racist responses, lol, but I'm looking for truth to this. I understand there ARE crappy areas that are mostly white, but typically if an area is mostly black/hispanic, it's an area you do not want to be in

So, why and how?

 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:11 PM
 
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I'm going to get a drink, sit back and watch this one...
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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I'm a white guy living in an almost exclusively black neighborhood in a black part of Omaha. I've got great neighbors, we have no crime that I know of, and I don't even lock my garage door.

So what does that prove? Anything? Nothing?
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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I've always wanted to discuss and get more information on this subject, but I always felt "bad" about looking at it this way..but it seems like anything goes on City Data lol

I do ask this in just the.. nicest way possible?

When areas...cities, towns, etc..are majority of black/hispanic, it's typically a high crime/drug area. Why? How did this happen?

I'm sure we'll get some mean racist responses, lol, but I'm looking for truth to this. I understand there ARE crappy areas that are mostly white, but typically if an area is mostly black/hispanic, it's an area you do not want to be in

So, why and how?
Easy. Go back and read your US history beginning with about 1830. Be sure to read the political, legal and economic angles.

Then it is obvious...and even more depressing (since a historical POV rules out any quick fixes).

There are plenty of healthy communities of colour--just filter by education and income.

S.
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:30 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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It's just in their blood going all the way back to West Africa, just like that rhythm they've all got.

Started to show back in the slave days with watermelons, then after freedom it jumped to high-end hubcaps. Now, anything goes. Plasma TVs, Coach Bags, white women...they just take whatever they see.

Sometimes, you can get one of them to become your best friend.





Well, that was fun!
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:40 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Easy. Go back and read your US history beginning with about 1830. Be sure to read the political, legal and economic angles.

Then it is obvious...and even more depressing (since a historical POV rules out any quick fixes).

There are plenty of healthy communities of colour--just filter by education and income.

S.
There are. All of the people of color I know, and I don't mean five or ten people, I know from the business world. They own houses, have college educations, are involved in the community, and raise their children to be productive people.

People who have been at the bottom of the economic ladder in this country while everyone passed them up are coming up, but as Sandpointian implies, there is no quick fix to the deeply ingrained perception of hopelessness that comes from generations of poverty without opportunity.
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:41 PM
 
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poverty
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Some of the worst neighborhoods that I've lived in were all white. Neighbors you rarely see. Divorce, substance abuse, alcoholism, spousal abuse, murder-suicide, child neglect, child abuse, elder neglect, elder abuse, psychological disorders and abuse, depression and abuse, pedophiles, teenage truancy, vandalism, teenage drug use, teenage rebellion against parents, parental abuse by teens, wild teenage behavior disturbing the peace, drugs, drugs, drugs, sexual perversions of every sort, pet abuse and neglect, bigotry, trespassing, burglary, embezzlement, forgery, fraud, tax cheats, theft, and so forth.

Problems don't just exist in areas that are "all-black" or "all-hispanic." Here in the SF bay area for instance, there are hundreds of asian houses of prostitution fronting as "good health" centers, "accupuncture" centers, "chinese herb, tea, and massage" centers, "massage and tanning" centers and the like.
 
Old 12-28-2009, 08:53 PM
 
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Hmm.. maybe it's just the areas I've known. Places like areas in Philadelphia and some places in NJ (Like Camden since it's the town next to me)
 
Old 12-28-2009, 09:09 PM
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Hmm.. maybe it's just the areas I've known. Places like areas in Philadelphia and some places in NJ (Like Camden since it's the town next to me)
I live in NJ, and yeah, Camden's pretty much irreparable. I don't think there IS a good section in that city. What I've seen of Philly isn't too hot, either. They are two cities that would give you that impression and serve to underscore that stereotype, because in those cases, it's reality. Places like that are self-perpetuating and that way of life is the only way their inhabitants know how to survive.

I know a few black people who grew up in Newark, in poverty, with welfare mothers, but who took advantage of every program they could and whose parents encouraged them to get an education and be something more. They got out and are now solid middle-class. Sadly, some never can get out, get caught up in the gangs and drugs and crime.
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