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Old 03-03-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Plattsburgh NY
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In todays society we all know that drug screening (when jobs return) is an important part of the hiring process. With all the serious drugs such as heroine, crack, meth, etc. I would pre-screen too. Now alcohol is much more harmful than marijuana. Nobody tests for that. With the recent decriminalization of marijuana (not in all states) it should be removed from the list of drug test failures. Same rules would apply as with alcohol... 21 and older, not at work, etc. What do you think?

This link explains everything I already know. I'm a long time marijuana consumer... now age 40.

Reliable information about marijuana and its effects based on research and science, not disinformation and propaganda.

Myths and Facts About Marijuana
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The issue with marijuana is it's a concealer for other drugs. That's why it's a banned substance in many sporting leagues and the Olympics -- not because they're concerned that marijuana is a performance enhancer but because it throws off the test for substances that are performance enhancers.

Even if it weren't, the fact is a company can't be too careful when it comes to liability these days.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:41 PM
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Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Is marijuana illegal?

Is alcohol?

The answers to those two questions answers your question.

Some jobs do screen for alcohol: bus drivers, airline pilots I know off the top of my head. When I was in Flight School (USN) we had a random screen and I was counseled about my positive alcohol reading, as were a few others in my class.

Thought of another one: railroads used to screen for alcohol at the employment physical and are still required to do a drug/alcohol test within two hours of any accident. That includes not only the train crew but any office personnel involved with that train's movement. Those are Federal rules.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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This is one of the reasons why I moved towards self-employment. The fact that an employer will literally shake your pee in front of you to see if you've been having fun on the weekends is the last straw for the thinking man who respects himself. At that point you are just a piece of property; a piece of meat. You're barely even a man. What you do on the weekends is now in question.

As per marijuana specifically, that's a whole new level of stupid. The fact that the most harmless way to expand ones consciousness is illegal and may preclude people from employment speaks to the level of stupidity and Corporatism that is The United States.
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Old 03-03-2010, 04:48 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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If you are going to screen for drug use, screen for all drugs that one could possibly use. What is the use in having a test if it doesn't test all drugs??
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:40 PM
 
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The general trend among employers over time has been to drop or reduce the number of drug tests they conduct, except in areas where drug-testing is required by law or insurance.

In many cases, drug screening is simply not cost effective, or necessary. It costs a lot of money to have all those specimens collected and then tested. And there is little evidence for many jobs that drug-testing actually makes a difference in terms of employee performance.

The drug-testing industry has tried to fight back by making testing mandatory for as many positions and purposes as possible, but in general, it is something that private employers have been backing away from since its peak a few years ago.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Plattsburgh NY
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Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
Is marijuana illegal?

Is alcohol?

The answers to those two questions answers your question.

Some jobs do screen for alcohol: bus drivers, airline pilots I know off the top of my head. When I was in Flight School (USN) we had a random screen and I was counseled about my positive alcohol reading, as were a few others in my class.

Thought of another one: railroads used to screen for alcohol at the employment physical and are still required to do a drug/alcohol test within two hours of any accident. That includes not only the train crew but any office personnel involved with that train's movement. Those are Federal rules.
Yea, no kidding. You're talking about direct responsibility for hundreds of other people. Due to recent activity bus drivers, pilots, railroad personnel should be be scrutinized. The majority in the job market are NOT responsible for hundreds of other people. Get real.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Plattsburgh NY
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If you are going to screen for drug use, screen for all drugs that one could possibly use. What is the use in having a test if it doesn't test all drugs??
Obviously, you didn't read or possibly understand my header. Test for everything. Just exclude marijuana as a "fail".
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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Is marijuana illegal?

Is alcohol?

The answers to those two questions answers your question.

Some jobs do screen for alcohol: bus drivers, airline pilots I know off the top of my head. When I was in Flight School (USN) we had a random screen and I was counseled about my positive alcohol reading, as were a few others in my class.

Thought of another one: railroads used to screen for alcohol at the employment physical and are still required to do a drug/alcohol test within two hours of any accident. That includes not only the train crew but any office personnel involved with that train's movement. Those are Federal rules.
If i ran the world, a positive for alcohol would be grounds for discipline or dismissal, especially in Flight School. Legal substance or not, it causes way more harm than pot.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I work in heavy industry and am glad they screen for alcohol and drugs. MJ causes people to be much less alert, when they come down. I cringed 20 years ago about my safety when working with the operators who smoked heavily on their off time.
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