Do we have the right to take our own life? (ethics, drug)

[elnina]

Originally Posted by jc76

It really don't matter if it's right or wrong. It's your life. Of all the choices being stripped from us today this is the one right that nobody can ever take away, your right to live or die.

I don’t agree with that. In hospitals are many people that are so sick, in so much pain, with no hope of improvement, and not able no voice the wish to die.
Many times they suffer because some selfish family member with guilty feelings would not agree to end the misery.

[WildCardSteve]

Yes, anyone has the right to end their own life.

Silly question.

[Moonwalkr]

Originally Posted by jc76

It really don't matter if it's right or wrong. It's your life. Of all the choices being stripped from us today this is the one right that nobody can ever take away, your right to live or die.

Well, you do lose that right if you murder someone and is sentenced to die.

[Werone]

Originally Posted by annika08

If I commit suicide in the privacy of my home, how is the community around me affected?

My employer loses me? I am expendable and easily replaced. My work is meaningless. My family? What makes you think I have a family and if I did, what makes you think they care? Not everyone has a family or someone who loves them.

You do not think you would affect your environment when people find out you committed suicide? If that is true then you are disconnected, and need to reconnect with your community. You are dependent on them, you do not grow all your own food, make your own clothes, provide your own fresh water, make your own transportation, worry about the eradication of disease...etc. You live in a community and the quality of life is a group effort. Join in!

[annika08]

Originally Posted by Werone

You do not think you would affect your environment when people find out you committed suicide? If that is true then you are disconnected, and need to reconnect with your community. You are dependent on them, you do not grow all your own food, make your own clothes, provide your own fresh water, make your own transportation, worry about the eradication of disease...etc. You live in a community and the quality of life is a group effort. Join in!

Please answer the question directly instead of in a round-about way-how would my death personally affect the community around me, other than in an economic way?

[cyrano]

Originally Posted by Werone

You do not think you would affect your environment when people find out you committed suicide? If that is true then you are disconnected, and need to reconnect with your community. You are dependent on them, you do not grow all your own food, make your own clothes, provide your own fresh water, make your own transportation, worry about the eradication of disease...etc. You live in a community and the quality of life is a group effort. Join in!

With all respect and I'm sure you mean well, what does my need to have someone else for food, clothing, etc. Have to do with the autonomy over my life that is at the heart of this issue? Experience has taught me that I only want to "join in" at a distance-- like here, anonymously. My neighbors aren't interested in my ideas or other input and I got tired of tilting at that windmill. Here's an example. I used to be pretty passionate about local politics but I gave it up for this election. As with politics most places, it's become nothing but shouting, name calling, and sound bites. The guy with the most signs will win because his backers paid for the signs.

There's a very few people about whom I care. Fortunately, if I ever seriously considred suicide, I believe that while they would hear me out and say they'd miss me, I can't imagine them trying to talk me out of it or laying a guilt trip on me. That's why they're my friends. One reason, anyway.

Dspite what Donne said, some of us are islands, and prefer it that way. We may have a few bridges or be part of an archipelago, but islands are what we are. You won't miss me when I'm gone, whenever I may go and by whatever means.

[Consent Withdrawn]

Originally Posted by cyrano

With all respect and I'm sure you mean well, what does my need to have someone else for food, clothing, etc. Have to do with the autonomy over my life that is at the heart of this issue? Experience has taught me that I only want to "join in" at a distance-- like here, anonymously. My neighbors aren't interested in my ideas or other input and I got tired of tilting at that windmill. Here's an example. I used to be pretty passionate about local politics but I gave it up for this election. As with politics most places, it's become nothing but shouting, name calling, and sound bites. The guy with the most signs will win because his backers paid for the signs.

There's a very few people about whom I care. Fortunately, if I ever seriously considred suicide, I believe that while they would hear me out and say they'd miss me, I can't imagine them trying to talk me out of it or laying a guilt trip on me. That's why they're my friends. One reason, anyway.

Dspite what Donne said, some of us are islands, and prefer it that way. We may have a few bridges or be part of an archipelago, but islands are what we are. You won't miss me when I'm gone, whenever I may go and by whatever means.

A very interesting viewpoint.

[Werone]

Originally Posted by annika08

Please answer the question directly instead of in a round-about way-how would my death personally affect the community around me, other than in an economic way?

I remember two people from my neighborhood, both near my age about 20 years ago committing suicide. I was friends with one guys brother and the other person I knew through my older brother. Maybe if you lived that experience through my eyes you would understand me.... It deeply affected my friends and me, and my neighborhood, and you should have seen my friend. A girlfriend of mine also lost her sister to that, about 25 years ago... it's a hole in her family's lives. With much respect, it is only my opinion, but if people start taking their lives around you then there is something wrong with that environment.

[Werone]

Originally Posted by cyrano

With all respect and I'm sure you mean well, what does my need to have someone else for food, clothing, etc. Have to do with the autonomy over my life that is at the heart of this issue? Experience has taught me that I only want to "join in" at a distance-- like here, anonymously. My neighbors aren't interested in my ideas or other input and I got tired of tilting at that windmill. Here's an example. I used to be pretty passionate about local politics but I gave it up for this election. As with politics most places, it's become nothing but shouting, name calling, and sound bites. The guy with the most signs will win because his backers paid for the signs.

There's a very few people about whom I care. Fortunately, if I ever seriously considred suicide, I believe that while they would hear me out and say they'd miss me, I can't imagine them trying to talk me out of it or laying a guilt trip on me. That's why they're my friends. One reason, anyway.

Dspite what Donne said, some of us are islands, and prefer it that way. We may have a few bridges or be part of an archipelago, but islands are what we are. You won't miss me when I'm gone, whenever I may go and by whatever means.

We need all kinds of people in the community, islands are fine, but it should always be an environment of living. Be the change you want to see,.. I do not wish a suicide in any family or community, I have seen what it does to the other family members and to the community.

[Back to NE]

I would want a pro-lifer to tell me if I can take my own life or not.