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Old 03-22-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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When I was younger in elementary school we got caned on our hands if we misbehaved and usually that meant a second helping of belt whipping at home. I don't remember many chronic troublemakers when I was younger.

Fast forward a couple decades later with child abuse crackdowns, many cities still have corporal punishment as a tool, but not practiced. Do we bring up more or less troubled youths with strict punishment?
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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LOL, good luck on this one! I had the same experience in 60's when I was growing up, but you better don't dare to suggest it today. Some parents are already falling unconscious, just after reading your post...
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I support corporal punishment in schools.

There are schools where, with parental permission, corporal punishment is / can be, used today
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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You might have trouble recruiting corporals?

I was subject to extensive corporal punishment as a kid. After I came back from 'Nam I let my stepfather know he only remained alive because killing him would cost too much to be worth the bother. IMHO beating or whipping only damages the kid more than it helps the beater.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:05 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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When I was younger in elementary school we got caned on our hands if we misbehaved and usually that meant a second helping of belt whipping at home. I don't remember many chronic troublemakers when I was younger.

Fast forward a couple decades later with child abuse crackdowns, many cities still have corporal punishment as a tool, but not practiced. Do we bring up more or less troubled youths with strict punishment?
There are too many factors that, for the most part, have changed since you & I were kids. One of them is the fact that if Junior gets in trouble at school, any more it's always the teacher's fault - not Junior's fault. Corporal punishment will never work at school if it's not supported at home.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:11 AM
 
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You might have trouble recruiting corporals?

I was subject to extensive corporal punishment as a kid. After I came back from 'Nam I let my stepfather know he only remained alive because killing him would cost too much to be worth the bother. IMHO beating or whipping only damages the kid more than it helps the beater.
What your step-father did was not corporal punishment.
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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So, whipping a kid is called "punishment", but whipping an adult is called "assault". I don't see the difference. Years ago, this subject came up in a meeting with my child's principal. I told him he could paddle my kid as long as he didn't mind getting punched in the mouth afterward. I never heard another word from him.
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:44 PM
 
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When I was younger in elementary school we got caned on our hands if we misbehaved and usually that meant a second helping of belt whipping at home. I don't remember many chronic troublemakers when I was younger.

Fast forward a couple decades later with child abuse crackdowns, many cities still have corporal punishment as a tool, but not practiced. Do we bring up more or less troubled youths with strict punishment?
Performing corporate punishment at school would certainly bring about many more lawsuits...something School Districts dont want / cant afford / no desire the publicity over. Time have changed big time ; theres no better time for a classroom Punk to do as he wishes. Afterall, America is all about moral relativism now -- adults along with their children carrying the torch.
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Old 03-24-2010, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Performing corporate punishment at school would certainly bring about many more lawsuits..
It would not result in any lawsuits at all, if it were legal. And the OP is about whether it should be legal or not.

What about locking unruly kids in a dark box too small to stand up or lie down in. Would that be corporal punishment? Or would it just be reducing the size of the detention room?

In my opinion, humiliation would be more effective than physical pain, and would also fall outside the corporal punishment parameters.

However, no punishment or reward would work to improve behavior, if there is no mechanism to administer it fairly---and kids know what fair means.
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:11 PM
 
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Whoever decided to use the term "corporal punishment" for reprimanding school children really was not very intelligent. I need to ask Moonwalkr if you actually got caned, or did you get slapped on the wrist with a cane of some sort. Corporal punishment by definition means to be caned, beaten, stoned to a severe level of bodily harm. I realize that some paddlings may have been too harsh but I believe for the most part over the years, a paddling consisted of 1-5 whacks with a paddle. This is not corporal punishment.

Of course, in my school days, there was no question that the teacher and principal had authority while the students were in their institution. School is a social institution and social institutions have guidelines. Time outs, teachers without authority and specifically embarrasing students does not help in the socialization of children. Rules in childhood become laws as adults.

Okay, I have to stop, I have company
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