Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Great Debates
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-01-2010, 06:23 PM
 
9,803 posts, read 16,110,788 times
Reputation: 8265

Advertisements

Some blacks do resort to suicide.

One of them did it in his cell while awaiting a murder trial after he and his partner cut the throats of my cousin , her teenage son, and teenage daughter during a home robbery.

I don't know if he felt bad about the crime or the prospect of spending the rest of his life behind prison walls.

Yup, tough, really tough.-----SARC
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-01-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: South Side
3,770 posts, read 8,251,201 times
Reputation: 2876
Quote:
Originally Posted by marmac View Post
Really?

Is that why the population in prison of blacks is much higher , percentage wise, than their population in the US ?

Maybe whites have a higher suicide rate cuz in tough times they don't consider resorting to crime as a way out of their troubles.
Resorting to crime can be a means of survival, some people will do whatever they have to, by any means necessary just to make it to see another day.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-01-2010, 06:47 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
18,258 posts, read 22,444,829 times
Reputation: 19593
Many Black people encounter difficulties and challenges starting very early and continue to experience them through their entire lives. Overcoming adversity and hurdles is a part of daily life.

Many of the things that would lead a young White man to the decision kill himself are considered simply a part of the hard knocks of life for many Black people.

There have been a few stories of murder-suicides here in CA because of the recession (many of those cases have actually been Asian families with the father killing the wife and children then himself). The thought of having a loss of societal status, to reduce their standard of living or having to start over and work their way back up is, in their minds, worse than death.

Sad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-01-2010, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
2,699 posts, read 2,402,099 times
Reputation: 1481
Quote:
Originally Posted by marmac View Post
Really?

Is that why the population in prison of blacks is much higher , percentage wise, than their population in the US ?

Maybe whites have a higher suicide rate cuz in tough times they don't consider resorting to crime as a way out of their troubles.
That's believable for me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-01-2010, 07:03 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
8,292 posts, read 26,569,465 times
Reputation: 3924
Quote:
Originally Posted by calipoppy View Post
Many Black people encounter difficulties and challenges starting very early and continue to experience them through their entire lives. Overcoming adversity and hurdles is a part of daily life.

Many of the things that would lead a young White man to the decision kill himself are considered simply a part of the hard knocks of life for many Black people.

There have been a few stories of murder-suicides here in CA because of the recession (many of those cases have actually been Asian families with the father killing the wife and children then himself). The thought of having a loss of societal status, to reduce their standard of living or having to start over and work their way back up is, in their minds, worse than death.

Sad.
I'm sorry, but that's absurd.

If you tried hard, you might be able to generalize even more.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-01-2010, 07:08 PM
 
271 posts, read 391,928 times
Reputation: 228
Murder on any level is suicide of the self...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2010, 10:59 AM
 
548 posts, read 1,248,914 times
Reputation: 285
Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull View Post
Murder on any level is suicide of the self...
Blacks resort to crime often because they are poor. Ex. Robbery, car theft. What's the excuse of middle class white peope resorting to suicide? When you commit suicide, you're essentially giving up.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2010, 02:04 PM
 
3,282 posts, read 5,182,845 times
Reputation: 1935
Textbook example of the kind of silly mental gymnastics you get when you start a conversation with a silly premise(ie: there is a causal relationship between ethnicity and suicide).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2010, 03:36 PM
 
548 posts, read 1,248,914 times
Reputation: 285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoarfrost View Post
Textbook example of the kind of silly mental gymnastics you get when you start a conversation with a silly premise(ie: there is a causal relationship between ethnicity and suicide).
If you can't see the clear link, then that's your problem.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-02-2010, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
17,919 posts, read 24,183,302 times
Reputation: 39021
If White males have a high rate of suicide because of a 'soft life' then other peoples with a 'soft life' should have a comparable rate of suicide. Do wealthy black, Asian and Latino families also show a high rate of suicide?

I think that it is an issue of shame-culture that may be more common in white communities rather than emotional weakness due to having a trust fund.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Great Debates

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top