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Old 05-20-2010, 03:24 PM
 
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This has been unproven through actual example - in US forces where female soldiers "inadvertently" ended up in combat situations and in Israel where women do serve in combat positions. In fairness, even in Israel, although women train in most combat positions, they rarely are assigned to "front line" combat. The reason: fears that female soldiers would be subject to different potential abuses than most male soldiers if taken as POWs - namely, rape.
Obviously you don't realize that torturing male prisoners through rape has been occurring since warfare started. Its about power and control not about sex.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Only if they can live up the the exact same physical standards as their male counterparts.

Otherwise, they have no business being on the frontline, just like any man who can't cut the mustard.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:25 PM
 
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Only if they can live up the the exact same physical standards as their male counterparts.

Otherwise, they have no business being on the front line, just like any man who can't cut the mustard.
Agreed.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:25 PM
 
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And it wouldn't be degrading for a male POW to be raped by male captors? Sorry, I'm thinking outside the box.
I hope you intended that pun Yes, I imagine it would be degrading. However, the IDF states that as the reason - the information is available from various online sources through simple Google searches. The argument about how well citizens would tolerate female loss of life vs male is not the driving force for the IDF like it might be here in the US. It plays a role, but it's not primary. End disclaimer string
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:26 PM
 
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Obviously you don't realize that torturing male prisoners through rape has been occurring since warfare started. Its about power and control not about sex.
Again - not my opinion - just reporting reasons given by IDF - take it up with them. Let's try to avoid personal attacks, as per TOS, eh? I realize all sorts of things, TYVM
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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I hope you intended that pun Yes, I imagine it would be degrading. However, the IDF states that as the reason - the information is available from various online sources through simple Google searches. The argument about how well citizens would tolerate female loss of life vs male is not the driving force for the IDF like it might be here in the US. It plays a role, but it's not primary. End disclaimer string
I can guarantee it would drive citizens to put an end to the war very quickly through the annihilation of our enemies. Not these P.C. driven wars we have in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:32 PM
 
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Again - not my opinion - just reporting reasons given by IDF - take it up with them. Let's try to avoid personal attacks, as per TOS, eh? I realize all sorts of things, TYVM
No attack intended.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Actually, to get back to the topic.

I think it would be a good idea to specifically train female volunteers right now to form the resistance on the home front, in the event we are successfully invaded and occupied. The Resistance consists largely of things like espionage, intel, sabotage, communications, mostly things that are brain-power activities, which women would be able to do regardless of their physical fitness. Invading armies would consist almost entirely of men, and women have proven that when they get organized, men have no clue what they are up to or what kinds of strategies they can cook up.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:16 PM
 
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Actually, to get back to the topic.

I think it would be a good idea to specifically train female volunteers right now to form the resistance on the home front, in the event we are successfully invaded and occupied. The Resistance consists largely of things like espionage, intel, sabotage, communications, mostly things that are brain-power activities, which women would be able to do regardless of their physical fitness. Invading armies would consist almost entirely of men, and women have proven that when they get organized, men have no clue what they are up to or what kinds of strategies they can cook up.
Didn't see the thread getting off topic but..

Guessing you're being facetious or baiting but it's still an interesting point. Currently, the US intel, CA, Psyop - active and reserve forces - are heavily dominated by male soldiers, not female - even though these are non-combat and non-lethal fires positions. So, even there, it would require specific targeted recruiting.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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Actually, to get back to the topic.

I think it would be a good idea to specifically train female volunteers right now to form the resistance on the home front, in the event we are successfully invaded and occupied. The Resistance consists largely of things like espionage, intel, sabotage, communications, mostly things that are brain-power activities, which women would be able to do regardless of their physical fitness. Invading armies would consist almost entirely of men, and women have proven that when they get organized, men have no clue what they are up to or what kinds of strategies they can cook up.
Wholeheartedly agree.
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