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Old 10-16-2010, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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We had a recycle center nearby where the trash was all separated after it got there, so we weren't required to do it. However, when we found that we could separate it ourselves, and take it there for free, we got into it. We loved the feeling of "sticking it to the man" and not paying for trash pick up.
Where we live now, we are required to pay for the twice weekly trash pick up-whether we use it or not-so there's no incentive to recycle.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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At work, they recycle plastic. Now, when it is bagged up, colored plastic is supposed to be kept separated from clear plastic. Yet when they send it to the recycle center or wherever they send it, it ends up mixed together in the compressed bale. We have an area to hold it that is about 144 cubic feet--and it has to be overflowing before they will compress it in the baler. That's because it needs to be a certain weight, or the company gets charged more money for sending it.
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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That (picture) has nothing to do with household recycling and I have little or no control over runoff or brown haze. That mess in the picture is most likely from the area homeless abandoning grocery carts when, what, they die or are incarcerated.

I own a 4x4, I'm a member of the NRA, I like barbecue and I recycle. No one within the sound of my voice or sphere of influence dumps motor oil, throws cigarette butts on the ground or throws a recyclable item in the trash. I've got a big, hot compost pile in the yard.

You really do have to learn how to sort your rednecks; you don't seem to have a clue. You think that people should pay, and 'pay big' for not recycling. That just tells me that you have nothing better to do.

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Relative to many environmental problems like non-point source runoff, or brown haze, the solution to much of the solid waste we produce is one of the easier environmental issues. With only minimal effort we can sort and recycle trash. With a tad more effort we can compost our organics. It won't resolve the entire problem of waste, but it would make a huge dent.
I'm truly amazed at how L A Z Y so many people are; they do not want to be inconvenienced in any way.

I think every city, every town in this country should apply fines to people who choose not to recycle. People can choose to not recycle. Just pay for it, and pay big. Too lazy to take 5 seconds and toss the pop bottle in the plastic bin? Pay a fine. Or, we could charge people by the weight of trash they produce for their household.
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:39 PM
 
Location: North Phoenix
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We had a recycle center nearby where the trash was all separated after it got there, so we weren't required to do it. However, when we found that we could separate it ourselves, and take it there for free, we got into it. We loved the feeling of "sticking it to the man" and not paying for trash pick up.
Where we live now, we are required to pay for the twice weekly trash pick up-whether we use it or not-so there's no incentive to recycle.
What about the "incentive" of having a clean unpolluted planet that lets us have air to breath and gives us water to drink?
Just because you have to pay a little more to trash services that means your "showing them" by not recycling something that's totally recyclable? Your only hurting the planet and future generations.
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Old 10-18-2010, 03:54 AM
 
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Following my Topic on "Why do some hate tree huggers" i notice some parallels with this topic.
There seems to be a strong underlying political connection with anything related to environmentalism to the point that Rightwing thinkers tend to be very touchy about the subject and tend to come up with many aggressive arguments against environmental ideals claiming they in some way restrict their right to free determination in various aspects of their lives,reading between their lines almost suggests that all things environmental are some form of ,Socialist Communist plot against America.

(Oxymoron unintended)
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:22 AM
 
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I own a 4x4, I'm a member of the NRA, I like barbecue and I recycle. No one within the sound of my voice or sphere of influence dumps motor oil, throws cigarette butts on the ground or throws a recyclable item in the trash. I've got a big, hot compost pile in the yard.

You really do have to learn how to sort your rednecks; you don't seem to have a clue. You think that people should pay, and 'pay big' for not recycling. That just tells me that you have nothing better to do.
WTHeck? What does the NRA, BBQs and 'rednecks' [your terminology used to define a particular class of people] have to do with recycling? I reread the post you quoted, and nowhere is there any mention of status, political belief or being a 'redneck' mentioned or implied. Well, it may be implied in your mind but it certainly wasn't in the post you quoted.

The previous post by jambo101 couldn't be more accurate.
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Old 10-18-2010, 08:39 AM
 
Location: mid wyoming
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People are basically lazy, unless it's the "cause of the day", they won't go much out of their way to help themselves and the planet.
If some movie star or rock star isn't into it then it is not much on peoples minds. Even then there is a double standard with the famous people, much like the government-Do as I say, not as I do type of thing.
And anyone rich,famous or just regular people. Won't do it if it's a strain or imposition on their lifestyle.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: North Phoenix
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Following my Topic on "Why do some hate tree huggers" i notice some parallels with this topic.
There seems to be a strong underlying political connection with anything related to environmentalism to the point that Rightwing thinkers tend to be very touchy about the subject and tend to come up with many aggressive arguments against environmental ideals claiming they in some way restrict their right to free determination in various aspects of their lives,reading between their lines almost suggests that all things environmental are some form of ,Socialist Communist plot against America.

(Oxymoron unintended)
You are right about that, I noticed the same thing.
I don't know why that is...you would think anyone who lives on earth be it Republican, democrat, independant, communist, whatever would want a clean and healthy environment to live in....and that is not just going to happen by itself with all the people on this planet....when someone mentions "respecting the planet" many right wingers go berserk and get defensive
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:02 AM
 
Location: North Phoenix
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WTHeck? What does the NRA, BBQs and 'rednecks' [your terminology used to define a particular class of people] have to do with recycling?
I was wondering the exact same thing lol
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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You are right about that, I noticed the same thing.
I don't know why that is...you would think anyone who lives on earth be it Republican, democrat, independant, communist, whatever would want a clean and healthy environment to live in....and that is not just going to happen by itself with all the people on this planet....when someone mentions "respecting the planet" many right wingers go berserk and get defensive
As an example of rightwing junk think heres phils take on the situation ==
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I think most people have adequately summed up the issues. However, most people (except me, I'll explain later) are fairly enviornmentally astute these days. They recycle, buy recycled goods, try and carpool, try and plan their days so they don't drive too much, not wash their towels everyday, et al.

However, for the tree hugging liberals, that isn't enough; they want more. And THAT is what pisses people off, including me. Me? I am going to leave the largest "carbon footprint" I can leave. I don't recycle. I drive a gas guzzling SUV (I always will), I take massive weekend road trips, just about every weekend, and purposely do everything I can to screw up the environment.

Why? Because I don't like women who don't shave their legs or underarms. I don't like men/women who act holier then thou and tell me what to do, because they are "progressive and know what is right for me."

There is NOTHING patriotic about chaining yourself to a tree; its actually very stupid. It also costs the tax payers of this country alot of money. Shave your armpits, shave your legs, quit eating bean sprouts, and see how good tasting a hunk of dead cow is. Nothing better then screwing up air quality, whilst grilling a piece of dead flesh, over an open fire.
This attitude is what advocates of a cleaner Earth have to deal with..
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