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Old 03-16-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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So I guess all those new "green" school busses that run on compressed natural gas are not so green afterall?
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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So I guess all those new "green" school busses that run on compressed natural gas are not so green afterall?
every fossil fuel has it's issues. dams create earthquakes also. i didn't read the entire thread...it's a valid statement, but what do we do?
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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every fossil fuel has it's issues. dams create earthquakes also. i didn't read the entire thread...it's a valid statement, but what do we do?
Electricity and fossil fuesl are allowing more people in this world to live at a higher quality of life than any time in human history. I think we accept there are risks, do the best we can to improve our technologies for more safe resources, without moving backwards to 3rd world style living. Heating with natural gas beats heating with oil as far as cost and availability. No doubt the gas industry needs to be more efficient in its methods. My larger concern in the extrusion of gas is water table contamination.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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"asunder" i like that word. im gonna try to work it into my day to day vocabulary.
hmmmm like I try to keep my asunder me when I'm setting down?
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Old 03-18-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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Electricity and fossil fuesl are allowing more people in this world to live at a higher quality of life than any time in human history. I think we accept there are risks, do the best we can to improve our technologies for more safe resources, without moving backwards to 3rd world style living. Heating with natural gas beats heating with oil as far as cost and availability. No doubt the gas industry needs to be more efficient in its methods. My larger concern in the extrusion of gas is water table contamination.
i agree with the bold....unfortunately, i don't think we're doing the best we can to improve and utilize the newer technologies. natural gas is a nice alternative in my view, but we can reduce natural gas usage also and reduce the problems that come along with that. we also could take some very painless steps to reduce our energy consumption in a lot of ways that wouldn't reduce us to 3rd world living. a few years ago, i read a pretty amazing stat in wired magazing. 5% of all "wasted" electricity in the U.S is due to cell phone charges plugged in when not in use. isn't that amazing? now think about all the other things plugged in when not in use: toaster? coffee maker? etc. but most people don't realize all those tiny draws from small appliances, in aggregate, amount to a lot of energy use!
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:30 AM
 
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I was never for fracking anyway and to learn that it causes microearthquakes just seals the deal for me. Whether fracking will lead to higher intensity quakes is another discussion in itself but the fact is, our current methods are causing the earth's plates to shift. That can never be good.
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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mmmmm earthquakes from hard fracking??? Sounds like my wifes problem..................
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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"Two hundred years ago, one of these faults caused a series of quakes so gigantically devastating that they caused the Mississippi river to temporarily reverse direction"

Were they fracking back then or are we dealing with freaking fracking idiots today who are trying to find someone to blame this on.


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Old 04-28-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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Wow I never considered that. Earthquakes, amazing. I was near one of our constuction sites and they were pounding support beams into the ground. That felt like a mini earthquake. Maybe we should stop building buildings. LOL

With the most natural gas in the world, and not all of it coming out of Washington D.C. we could sure take a dent out of the oil we use now if we were to get more of the natural gas out of the ground, don't you think?

LOL

Here we drive pilings into the ground for our foundations. I was building Boomtown Casino and we were driving the pilings.

A truck driver from up north was delivering materials to the jobsite and asked me what were we doing driving all those telephone poles into the ground.

I looked at him and said that we were building an underground substation for the phone company. I told him that we were going to drive all the telephone poles, then dig then out and run the lines on the bottom and cover them back up because all the lines had to be run underground.

I expected him to laugh and get it but he scratched his he and said that's the dangest thing I ever saw and my buddies back home wouldn't believe it.

I wish to this day that I was there when he told people and they said you're full of crap and he said, no I saw it with my own eyes.


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Old 04-29-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: DC
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There is a big difference between a 2.0 earthquake and a 7.0 earthquake.
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