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Old 04-11-2011, 10:00 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I'd imagine there is lot or reasons, one reason would be many smaller trucks used to be gasoline. Another would be many people switching to oil for heat when it was really cheap, heating oil is the same thing as diesel and it's used a lot in the northeast.

I believe that when diesel went "mainstream" and started being used in cars (remember the first diesel cars with the converted gas engines?) diesel became more expensive.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Just outside of Portland
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I noticed diesel prices spiked when our military got involved in the middle east.
I have no way to prove it, but I suspect that since the military runs on diesel and jet fuel (kerosene), that may have something to do with it. It's amazing how much jet fuel an F22 burns with full afterburners. Add in tanks, ships, trucks, aircraft, troop carriers and all the other stuff and
that's a lot of fuel being used up.

And no I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything like that, I just notice things.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:39 AM
 
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I believe that when diesel went "mainstream" and started being used in cars (remember the first diesel cars with the converted gas engines?) diesel became more expensive.
It was below the cost of unleaded until late 90's or 2000.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral, FL
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The Gov't made changes to the accepted level of sulfur in diesel fuel, so that makes refiners having to comply. In order to comply, they need technology. Technology costs money and money is made from those who buy/need the diesel.
The excise tax is also greater for diesel vs. standard gas.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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You won't see European diesels here in America because they won't pass American emissions standards and the manufactures don't see a ROI on making them Americanized.

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The 50-state light-duty vehicle limit for emissions of nitrogen oxides is 0.07 grams per mile. In Western Europe, the limit is 0.29.


Diesel Cars in Europe vs. America - Why Diesel Vehicles Are Expensive in US - Popular Mechanics



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Old 04-12-2011, 05:21 PM
 
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Yep and the US "Gubbermint" can't see the forest from the trees to make it allowed here - they really want us to suffer and depend on them ultimately.

This is a car we need here.
Yeah, another Bush conspiracy

/sarcasm
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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It's not a hybrid, it's a turbo diesel and only europe will see this model.
Maybe you will be able to buy one in Canada. They have 60 mpg smartCars up there.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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Can the car be brought into the United States without meeting emissions standards?
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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We need more of these cars here if the agency of the Gov., would shut up and make it allowed here.
Isn't that the EPA that will not allow the European diesel mix here in the US?

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Can the car be brought into the United States without meeting emissions standards?
What are you going to put in the tank to run it on?
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Can the car be brought into the United States without meeting emissions standards?
Good question. I'm not sure what the licensing requirements would be. I know some people who have one and live in the US for 6 months of the year, but they license it in Canada. I suppose it depends on what your state requires and also how conscientious the garage is that conducts the safety inspection. Here in the Missouri Ozarks, I seriously doubt if they would even know the difference.

20yrsinBranson
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