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Old 09-16-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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Eating a bowl of ROUND UP and now consuming 2-4D herbicide is really frightening.
who eats a bowl of ROUND UP? if eating that or 2,4-D terrifies you, i suggest you stop eating it.

 
Old 09-16-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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How is that? Are they foods that were prepared wrong or things that should not have been eaten in the first place?
In earlier posts I have given multiple URL's to these organic sicknesses and deaths...

I am not going to regurgitate them because you are too lazy to go back in this thread...
 
Old 09-16-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Eating a bowl of ROUND UP and now consuming 2-4D herbicide is really frightening.
Do you have anything intelligent to add to this discussion? The above is absolutely ludicrous...

Can you document any accredited times this has occurred other than in some anti-GMO comic?
 
Old 09-16-2013, 02:45 PM
 
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Really? so you are saying that we are predisposed to get cancer later in life anyway because we live longer? People lived shorter lives before because there was alot more physical work and not the great advances in healthcare. The advances in healthcare are mainly in big pharma and they have no real intentions on curing anything as Chris Rock had unfortunately joked about. Can you explain why ADD and other three and four letter diagnosis that did not exist 60 years ago are so prevalent now? Is this something else that we would have eventually have gotten if we lived long enough. oh thats right KIDS tend to be diagnosised with this. I guess diabetes is another thing that we would eventually have gotten as well, since that is also on the rise.

This still does not explain why they tried to sneak it into the farm bill in the first place if they were on the up and up
The correlations you attempt to make stretch the limits of common sense.

There is not one shred of evidence linking any of the occurrences you talk about other than from the rabid anti-GMO blogs...



~ Can you explain why 80% of the serial killers of the world eat bread for their breakfasts?

I highly suggest you get and read the following, it will help you understand correlations (or lack thereof):



The Complete Idiot's Guide® To Statistics
By: Robert Donnelly Jr.
Publisher: Alpha Books
Pub. Date: May, 01 2007
Print ISBN-13: 978-1-59257-634-0
Pages in Print Edition: 416

http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book.../9781592576340

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Old 09-16-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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what toxins?
What toxins??

SODIUM FLOURIDE
ARSENIC

Those are just 2 things to avoid!!!!!!! (AND THEY ARE BOTH IN FOOD!)

13 more: http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-9694/...your-food.html
 
Old 09-16-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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What toxins??

SODIUM FLOURIDE
ARSENIC

Those are just 2 things to avoid!!!!!!! (AND THEY ARE BOTH IN FOOD!)

13 more: 13 Dangerous Toxins To Avoid In Your Food
Uhhh, this thread is about GMO's, not toxins...



Click on this button to start another ~yawn~ thread on toxins (like there have been enough already)

 
Old 09-17-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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Really? so you are saying that we are predisposed to get cancer later in life anyway because we live longer?
That is correct. And you can see this effect most easily in dogs. 50% of all dogs who live over 10 years develop cancer. It's largely a function of aging and spontaneous tissue changes. A smaller amount, overall, is due to environmental factors.

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People lived shorter lives before because there was alot more physical work and not the great advances in healthcare. The advances in healthcare are mainly in big pharma and they have no real intentions on curing anything as Chris Rock had unfortunately joked about.
This popular meme is nonsense. People lived shorter lives on average because there were so many infectious diseases that medical science has conquered. Smallpox has been eradicated from the world by medical science, and polio is not far behind. Effective vaccines have been developed against measles and whooping cough, and the only reason for the re-occurrence of these diseases in the US recently is because of irrational anti-science resistance to immunization.

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Can you explain why ADD and other three and four letter diagnosis that did not exist 60 years ago are so prevalent now? Is this something else that we would have eventually have gotten if we lived long enough. oh thats right KIDS tend to be diagnosised with this. I guess diabetes is another thing that we would eventually have gotten as well, since that is also on the rise.
It's a misconception to think that medical conditions that have only come to our attention recently are new. Lyme Disease is one of the latest "hot" diseases, and it was only described and named in 1975 in Lyme, CT. But close examination of Otzi, the 5,000 year old ice mummy discovered in the Alps revealed that he had Lyme Disease.

When i was looking into a stream of ADD in my family I was able to trace it back 200 years, based on specific behavioral traits that had been recorded in the family history. It just wasn't distinguished as a medical diagnosis until recently. Ditto Asperger's Syndrome, which is now considered part of the Autism spectrum. Yet its symptoms have been evident in historical figures for centuries.

Simply stated, as medical science gets more and more sophisticated, it turns up more and more things that were there all along, but which had just gone undiscovered or undistinguished.

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This still does not explain why they tried to sneak it into the farm bill in the first place if they were on the up and up
Not sure what you are referring to, and who is "they," unless you mean the Farmer Protection rider, which said that a farmer who planted legally permitted crops could not be forced to pull them up if someone filed a lawsuit later. This was not new, but was in fact an extension to existing policy, which recognized the unfairness of giving opponents the power to destroy a farmer's crop just by filing suit and requesting a restraining order. In effect, it eliminated a dirty move that had been popularized by the anti-science activists.
 
Old 09-17-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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What toxins??

SODIUM FLOURIDE
ARSENIC

Those are just 2 things to avoid!!!!!!! (AND THEY ARE BOTH IN FOOD!)

13 more: 13 Dangerous Toxins To Avoid In Your Food
wrong thread pal. this one is about genetically modified crops.
 
Old 09-17-2013, 11:48 PM
 
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Once again the lying BS tactics of the anti-GMO crowd has been uncovered...

Date of article: August 26, 2013

The True Story About Who Destroyed a Genetically Modified Rice Crop

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Did you hear that a group of 400 angry farmers attacked and destroyed a field trial of genetically modified rice in the Philippines this month? That, it turns out, was a lie. The crop was actually destroyed by a small number of activists while farmers who had been bussed in to attend the event looked on in dismay.

The nature of the attack was widely misreported, from the New York Times to New Scientist to BBC News, based on false claims by the activists. But then anti-GMO activists often lie. In support of the vandals, Greenpeace has claimed that there are health concerns about the genetically modified rice. In fact there is no evidence of risk, and the destruction of this field trial could lead to needless deaths.
Golden rice attack in Philippines: Anti-GMO activists lie about protest and safety.

WAKE UP PEOPLE... "THEY" ARE PREYING ON YOUR FEAR OF TECHNOLOGY AND YOU'RE BEING LIED TO...
 
Old 09-18-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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Anyone answer this?

If GM foods are so bad for everyone why does the anti-GMO crowd have to constantly resort to lies, mistruths and misrepresentation of facts to promote their views?

One would think the truth would stand on it's own two feet without resorting to lies, mistruths and misrepresentation of facts...

Is it possible that so many people have seen the alarmist lies, mistruths and misrepresentation of facts spread by the anti-GMO crowd they just tune them out?

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