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Old 08-04-2012, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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"China has 19% of the world’s population, but consumes ...
53% of the world's cement
48% f the world's iron ore
47% of the world's coal
and the majority of just about every other major commodity.
In 2010, China produced 11 times more steel than the United States.
New World Record: China made and sold 18 million vehicles in 2010.

China is currently the number one producer in the world of wind and solar power, but don’t use it themselves. While they manufacture 80% of the world’s solar panels, they install less than 5% and build a new coal fired power station every week. In one year they turn on more new coal powered electricity than Australia's total output.
They are already the largest carbon dioxide emitter and their output will rise 70% by 2020.

And we think we're saving the planet?

It will not make one iota of difference what we do in Australia, Canada, the United States or anywhere else in the world; for that matter, all the politicians are doing is increasing our cost of living and making our manufacturers uncompetitive in the world market, with the carbon tax, when countries like China are growing and consuming at these extraordinary rates!

Dr. Michael R. Lee
B.Sc., M.D., M.C.F.P. (E.M.), D.A.B.E.M., F.A.C.E.P."



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Old 08-04-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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No worries, just quit buying stuff made in China. Then they will quit making so much carbon dioxide. I try real hard to buy things made or grown locally. Keeps the money in my neighborhood where we need it, not sent off to China.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:11 AM
 
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China is currently the number one producer in the world of wind and solar power, but don’t use it themselves. While they manufacture 80% of the world’s solar panels, they install less than 5% and build a new coal fired power station every week. In one year they turn on more new coal powered electricity than Australia's total output.
They are already the largest carbon dioxide emitter and their output will rise 70% by 2020.

We burn about 1 billion tons of coal a year, they burn more than 5 billion tons per year. From 2000 to 2010 alone they increased their annual consumption 1 billion tons. The only bright side is they wll exhaust their domestic supply somewhere around the next 30 or 40 years.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:15 AM
 
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No worries, just quit buying stuff made in China. Then they will quit making so much carbon dioxide.
That ship has already sailed. I try and buy made in the USA but it's not always possible. Those goods need to be made somewhere and it would certainly be nice to see them made here but you can't do that without increasing CO2 output if you're going to compete with Chinese products. Add to that they have more than a billion people in their own country that are consuming a lot more as their own internal economy expands.
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Old 08-05-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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China has committed almost $1 trillion dollars over the next 20 years towards renewable energy, transportation, and infrastructure upgrades. That's A LOT more than what the US has planned. China is still rising, it won't be long before they pass the US in terms of economic output AND their ability to be energy independent. Meanwhile, the US has pissed away $1 trillion over the past 10 years and counting cess pool wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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If the chinese invested that much money into green energy, why are they not reaping the benefits of it, and still building coal fired plants?
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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If the chinese invested that much money into green energy, why are they not reaping the benefits of it, and still building coal fired plants?
They have no choice, they will exhaust their coal supply over the next 3 or 4 decades and 4 is probably an optimistic number. Most nations face the same issue including many in Europe. There is only about 3 nations that could remain energy independent that have enough resources to meet the needs of their population. The US, Russia and Canada. I don't include nations like Saudi Arabia in that list because their only product is oil.

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