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Old 01-29-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Obviously the posters who defend nuclear would like to not include Chernobyl and Fukushima in the discussion.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Obviously the posters who defend nuclear would like to not include Chernobyl and Fukushima in the discussion.
Arguably both situations were avoidable, yes? Let's look at the mistakes for Fukishima.

  • The site location to begin with right off the bat was poor choice. Knowing your in area that is historically prone to tsunami's is like playing the lottery.
  • Having built there anyway hardening the backup power against the threat of a tsunami should have been priority number one.
  • Last but not least they may have been able to avoid this even after the fact if they had accepted the offer from the US to fly generators there.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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Obviously the posters who defend nuclear would like to not include Chernobyl and Fukushima in the discussion.
Earlier I posted the FACT of how many people directly died from Chernobyl, it was 30 (thirty)..... To save you the immense intellectual endeavor of going back in this thread here is the link to the International Atomic Energy Agency FAQ on Chernobyl:

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/featu...erno-faq.shtml

Yes I know, it's a paid shill of THEM...

And pay particular attention to this: 9. What happened to the environment and animals after the accident?

~yawn~ pwned again, you people slay me.....

As far as Fukushima was concerned there was no problem(s) with the nuclear reactor, it was the stupidity of the designers who didn't take severe natural disasters into account....

If you would go back to follow this thread from the beginning (which you obviously have not) you will find numerous posts on both these incidents...


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Old 01-29-2013, 05:25 PM
 
Location: DC
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Arguably both situations were avoidable, yes? Let's look at the mistakes for Fukishima.

  • The site location to begin with right off the bat was poor choice. Knowing your in area that is historically prone to tsunami's is like playing the lottery.
  • Having built there anyway hardening the backup power against the threat of a tsunami should have been priority number one.
  • Last but not least they may have been able to avoid this even after the fact if they had accepted the offer from the US to fly generators there.
Human error seems unavoidable.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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Human error seems unavoidable.
Since humans are not perfect your statement makes sense....

The great thing about humanity is we learn from our mistakes, in fact a conference will begin shortly (1/28/13) to discuss "lessons learned" from Fukishima....

International Experts' Meeting to Discuss Post-Accident Decommissioning and Remediation

International Experts' Meeting to Discuss Post-Accident Decommissioning and Remediation
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The end of the road Alaska
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Fukushima Update | Ground under Fukushima Unit 4 sinking, structure on verge of complete collapse

If this doesn't make everybody all warm and fuzzy over nuclear power nothing will.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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Fukushima Update | Ground under Fukushima Unit 4 sinking, structure on verge of complete collapse

If this doesn't make everybody all warm and fuzzy over nuclear power nothing will.
As far as Fukushima was concerned there was no problem(s) with the nuclear reactor, it was the stupidity of the designers who didn't take severe natural disasters into account and Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) admitted it had known safety improvements were needed before the disaster, but had failed to implement them.

Might as well blame the City of New York for the damage Sandy caused....
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Fukushima Update | Ground under Fukushima Unit 4 sinking, structure on verge of complete collapse

If this doesn't make everybody all warm and fuzzy over nuclear power nothing will.
Just wow. Worst case I can think of isn't the writer's prediction the entire world will become uninhabitable in the next few months. Wow. If those pools do get drained by an AOG, you can bet plenty of pumps are available with ready access to unlimited water (the ocean) and almost an infinite source of dilution even if a few rods were already cracked. Modern pumps aren't your garden hose variety. How do you think the the Space Shuttle burned up that big orange tank in 8 minutes?
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:38 AM
 
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As far as Fukushima was concerned there was no problem(s) with the nuclear reactor, it was the stupidity of the designers who didn't take severe natural disasters into account and Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) admitted it had known safety improvements were needed before the disaster, but had failed to implement them.

Might as well blame the City of New York for the damage Sandy caused....
"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play."
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play."
Still can't answer my simple questions I see, just posting more gobblydegook...

BTW:

Land Needed by Wind or Solar Energy to Match Annual Nuclear Energy Production



http://www.nei.org/resourcesandstats...graphiclanduse

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