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Old 03-21-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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Annnndddddd Arizona is making the first big move...

It's only a preliminary step, but it's a bill to allow Tesla to sell directly in Arizona which just passed a state Senate committee Wednesday, beating Texas to the punch by a country mile, because Texas legislature is not even in session. If the bill gets passed and signed into law, it seems to me it will give AZ a big advantage over TX in the competition to win the plant.

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Arizona bill would allow Tesla to skip dealers

"This is a great opportunity for us to send a message that we welcome business and we welcome Tesla here to Arizona," said Peterson, R-Gilbert. "We shouldn't deny our consumers from being able to purchase a product if they want."

Tesla has a showroom in Scottsdale but can't sell cars there under a 2000 law. Instead, it takes orders online.

The bill was originally about an unrelated subject, but it was amended Wednesday by Sen. John McComish, the Senate majority leader, to take up the Tesla language. It would allow a company to sell vehicles directly to consumers if it only makes electric vehicles and has a service center in the state to handle repairs and warranty issues.

McComish calls it a "pre-emptive strike" against future laws that could outlaw Tesla's operations completely.

"What has happened ... is that in some states, they are moving to outlaw that kind of operation," McComish said. "But I think we should be about opportunities for innovation rather than stifling innovation."

Arizona bill would allow Tesla to skip dealers
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:57 AM
 
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According to the SA Business Journal, two reps from Tesla were visiting local leaders and scouting possible sites.

Not a done deal but something to consider-
San Antonio is a fit for the Gigafactory.

Toyota already operates a truck plant on the South Side and is an investor in Tesla, partnering with it in the design of Toyota's RAV4 SUV.

The proximity to the border creates a regional automotive cluster that other cities in Texas as well as the southwest can't match.

Local economic development officials have deep contacts with Sanyo, a subsidiary of Panasonic, which is Tesla's primary maker of lithium-ion batteries and is considering investing $1 billion in the Gigafactory.

The prospect of Google Fiber Internet service in San Antonio only helps the cause, boosting Web connections to speeds crucial for tech companies and researchers.

Proximity to Tesla CEO Elon Musk's potential commercial space flight project in South Texas

The potential use of Port San Antonio for manufacturing, product development and shipping, all contained within a Foreign Trade Zone.

A city-owned utility in CPS Energy that could possibly be a partner with Tesla in renewable-energy development.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/bu...anted=all&_r=0

To pretend like auto manufacturers, including Tesla, are ignoring the recylcing of the batteries, is just having your head in the sand. This article is from 3 years ago. The companies have been working with companies around the globe, and governments are also involved.

Lead batteries are only recycled because of strict regulations, not because of some huge profit-motive.
No, lead/acid batteries are recycled because of economics. The materials recovered from lead/acid batteries has a high value that makes it attractive to do so.

There is so much money in recycling/recovering the materials from lead/acid batteries that it is a major profit center for Exide. They'd do it no matter what.

The regulations only serve to direct financial resources that are secondary interests.

Take 20 used car batteries to a recycling center and see how much money you get for them. Then tell us how there is no money in it and the only reason you got the money was because of regulations. The recycling of lead/acid batteries is not supported through the financial benefits of regulation.

Lead is used in many manufacturing processes for all kinds of products you'd probably never imagine. Go an buy lead and see how much it costs.

Profit motive is one of the primary reasons lead/acid batteries are recycled.

96& of all lead/acid batteries are recycled with far more than 50% of the composition of each battery having valuable recyclable materials.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:31 AM
 
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The companies have been working with companies around the globe, and governments are also involved.
Jesus we are Doomed...
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:45 PM
 
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Default Spring 2014 Roundup of News on Tesla Battery Factory Candidates

If you only want to read one article to catch up on the jockeying between Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas to win the Tesla Battery Factory, this one does a pretty good roundup of the situation as of March.

Tesla’s $5B Giga Battery Factory and Deep Politics in AZ, TX, NV and NM : Greentech Media
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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Default Summer Update... Is it down to just Reno and San Antonio now?

Interesting speculation at this point in the process...

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The battle for electric car maker Tesla Motors' multibillion-dollar battery plant is supposed to be a four-way race. Some site selection experts, however, believe the fight for the Gigafactory likely boils down to one heavyweight and a plucky upstart.

In one corner is San Antonio, a city located in a big state with equally big pockets to invest in economic development.In the other corner is Reno, which has less than a fifth of San Antonio's population and even fewer resources when it comes to ponying up financial incentives.

"A case can be made for both Arizona and New Mexico … and you have to give them credit," said John Boyd, a principal of Princeton, N.J.-based site selection firm The Boyd Company. "But the two leading contenders are Reno and San Antonio."

Nevada, Texas square off for Tesla battery plant
But the really fascinating detail to me is that groundbreaking is expected in two or three of the possible locations this year, although final selection won't happen until later.

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Tesla says it likely won't announce a final site for the Gigafactory before the end of the year. In the meantime, it will start breaking ground in two or even three states while it makes its decision — a move that site selection experts described as unusual.

"I think it's just a matter of Tesla saving time on the development process once it picks a site," said Dennis Donovan, a principal with another New Jersey-based site selection firm, Wadley Donovan Gutshaw Consulting.. "(The concurrent development) is actually not that bad for those communities even if the company goes somewhere else because the site infrastructure will be valuable for other prospective tenants."

Boyd, on the other hand, thinks that the multi-pronged development approach helps Tesla maintain secrecy in case information leaks out at one of the sites. It's also an excellent way for the company to try to get as many incentives from all states involved, including its desire to change the franchise model for car sales, Boyd added.
What a way to keep everyone guessing!
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:45 PM
 
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Well, the summer is heating up, and so are speculations about where the Tesla Gigabattery factory will be built. The latest rumor to hit the mill is that California is back in serious contention to win the competition. With all the $Billions at stake, I'm sure each whisper is being followed with intense interest by the good folks of the five states reportedly under consideration... Nevada, Arizona, New Mexicao, Texas, and... yes... California.

California to mount aggressive bid for Tesla battery plant
California to mount aggressive bid for Tesla battery plant - LA Times

Tesla looking at California for battery factory: report
Tesla looking at California for battery factory: report - MarketWatch

But of course Texas Governor Perry is going after it hard, even visiting California in a Tesla S to make his pitch...

Texas Gov. Rick Perry makes a play for Tesla’s battery factory
Dan Morain: Texas Gov. Rick Perry makes a play for Tesla’s battery factory - Dan Morain - The Sacramento Bee
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:35 AM
 
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Default Tesla breaks ground near Reno, plans to make 100K cars a year by end of 2015

Lots of Tesla news Thursday... Tesla has reportedly broken ground and started pouring foundations near Reno, Nevada for its Gigafactory; announced that Panasonic will be a major partner in the venture; and also announced plans to ramp up auto production to an annual delivery rate of 100K cars by the end of next year, including a mix of both Model S sedans and Model X crossover SUVs.

Meanwhile New Mexico claims the final selection really hasn't been made, and Tesla hasn't confirmed a selection yet, but clearly it has to be made soon in order to keep up with the pace of battery manufacture needed once the $35,000 Model 3 debuts in 2016. One detail I ran across that I had not heard before is that in Elon Musk's vision railroad cars full of raw ore will come in one side of the Gigafactory, and finished batteries will be shipped out the other.

Here are a couple of the stories...

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Tesla breaks ground in Reno for potential gigafactory, ramps up Model S production

PALO ALTO -- Tesla Motors revealed Thursday that it is drastically ramping up electric car production with a new assembly line at its Fremont factory and broke ground on a potential site for its much anticipated battery "gigafactory" just across the California border in Reno.

The Palo-Alto based company reported Thursday that it delivered 7,579 all-electric Model S sedans in the second quarter and increased its expectations for 2014 deliveries to more than 35,000 cars. By the end of next year, Tesla expects its delivery rate to exceed 100,000 units per year. That number will include both the Model S and its next car, the Model X, a crossover SUV scheduled to come out in 2015.

Tesla breaks ground in Reno for potential gigafactory, ramps up Model S production - San Jose Mercury News
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Tesla Teams with Panasonic for Gigafactory, Still Hasn't Chosen Site Location

The deal states that Tesla will prepare, provide and manage the land, buildings and utilities while Panasonic will manufacture and supply cylindrical lithium-ion cells and invest in the equipment, machinery and other manufacturing tools.

DailyTech - Tesla Teams with Panasonic for Gigafactory, Still Hasn't Chosen Site Location
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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Default Reports: Tesla to Build Gigafactory in Nevada

It appears that Nevada has grabbed the brass ring on the Tesla battery Gigafactory site selection. The Governor of Nevada will hold a press conference in Carson City on Thursday 9/4, and Tesla representatives will be there, so the anonymous report from "people familiar with the situation" that an official announcement will be made of Nevada's selection seems quite likely.

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Tesla Motors Inc. (TSLA), which has broken ground on a potential site in Nevada for its planned massive battery factory, will proceed with building the first such facility there, said two people familiar with the matter.

Representatives from the electric-car maker led by billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk are to attend an event with Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval set for 4 p.m. local time tomorrow in Carson City, Tesla spokesman Simon Sproule said in a phone interview. He declined to confirm whether Musk would attend or elaborate on what will be announced. Tesla said in August that it began preparation work at a site near Reno.

Tesla Said to Select Nevada for Its First Battery Site - Bloomberg
CNN Money says Tesla is going to Nevada
Tesla, Nevada governor to announce a big deal - Sep. 3, 2014
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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Yes!!!! Hope it really does happen in norhtern NV, we need jobs, and soon! I can't imagie how they are going to find quaified workers here though. I hope they have a plan.
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