Texas to spend 2 billion on batteries for solar/wind system fix.

[Mack Knife]

Originally Posted by OpenD

Misquoting me and misstating what I say uses another very popular fallacy of yours, the straw man argument.

I never said that big energy players weren't going to continue to operate the transmission grid. They take a huge amount of capital to build and maintain. But power generation and supply is no longer exclusive to them. The grid is becoming more like a public highway that any company can drive on rather than a private railroad track that only they can operate. That's a huge difference.

Don't look now, your other posts are disagreeing with you. Off grid power is a bit player, even most roof top solar flows into the grid. The grid players are the same and will continue to be so. The names might change, those controlling them won't.

Now the grid is like a public highway anyone can drive on? Unbelievable and wrong.

You cited Southern California Edison as one company on a short list of companies that will control renewable energy storage. Ask just about anyone in Southern California if that company isn't a monopoly. If anyone can drive on the grid as you claim, why do so many people in SoCal have to buy their energy from SCE and why do people with rooftop solar have to feed into the grid? Their only way out is offered use and just how is that working out for the average or typical "anyone"?

Your own posts disagree with what you say after the OP. LOL.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by OpenD

Fabulous. I've been saying that converting to renewable energy will be a benefit to our economy! New companies, new jobs, new investments, it's all a logical outcome of adopting new technologies on a large scale.

That's irrelevant if you are destroying more jobs than you are creating through increased energy costs and extremely high paying jobs lost in other energy sectors. The manufacturing jobs are not in the US, the guy working at caterpillar making really good money is not better off with some low paying job assembling solar panels made in China.

[Year2525]

Piggybacking on that, I'm concerned about job density and lower wages in this sector. The solar installers aren't paid much at all and there doesn't seem to be much concern about higher paid workers getting replaced with lower paid workers. Look what happened when heavy industry and manufacturing left and there was no path forward. I don't have a problem with moving forward as long as entire work forces aren't left behind.

[Mack Knife]

It is the responsibility of the displaced workers to educate themselves or "reinvent" themselves to enable them to compete for different jobs.

Of course that is considering other jobs are available. On that note though, there are always other jobs available. Some people manage to go back to college in their later years and switch careers.

There are also many opportunities to obtain assistance from government agencies but much of that goes unclaimed.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by Mack Knife

It is the responsibility of the displaced workers to educate themselves or "reinvent" themselves to enable them to compete for different jobs.

Jobs will always be lost to new technology and it certainly wouldn't be me to stand in the way of market driven progress to save a few jobs. In this case however we have a technology driven not by the market but mandates and subsidies. If you are going foist a much more expensive product onto the market and try to make proclaomations about the jobs it creates you have to be honest about what those jobs are and what you are losing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsEMHQ2sjOk

[Year2525]

If the government has a hand in helping create an industry or supports it then it also has a hand in displacing workers. Seems that then there is a responsibility to help those workers.