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Old 11-29-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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"Taking an hour stroll on the Internet makes me feel like I live under my parents' roof again!"
Not sure about the Internet as a whole, but the World Wide Web really started giving me that impression by about 2003 or so!

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"I'll warm 'em up."
Ah, kay. Though wrapping them in fleece before putting them in the freezer might also help. ;o)

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Old 11-29-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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The extra fridge (not frig) we have means we don't have to go to the grocery store as often. We save money by buying things on sale and stocking up. We freeze milk, cheese and lots of fresh produce from the farmers market. We save gas and wear and tear on the car and we eat out less often cause we always have ingredients on hand. It also means in the summer when the kids are playing outside they just reach into the garage fridge for a cold drink or popsicle and they don't open the door to the house as often. its all win win for us.
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Ha ha! I have 3 sliding glass patio doors in my house.

Guess I may as well just stop recycling, turn up the thermostat in the winter, and should probably just throw away all my plastic bags instead of reusing them.
Just make sure you carry a house key outside. We had one, but used a rod to keep it secure. Went out with the rod next to it, look back and the cat is playing with it and it... falls in place. Had no key. Mom had to break the bathroom window and I climbed in to open the door. We kept keys on us after that.
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Most of the posters here have missed the point, which is not about how much electricity you can afford to pay for.

It's about considering the environmental costs associated with your choices. Fossil fuel powered electrical plants generate carbon pollution, and using less electricity means less pollution is generated. That's the real point.

Many people are simply not aware that refrigerators over about 7 years old use more energy than modern designs do, and nearly empty "beer fridges" waste the most.

And it's a common-sense consideration. Sure, if you live in the boonies and keep a second fridge full because it saves trips to the city to shop, then that's a reasonable justification.

Since the incandescent light bulb situation was brought up, hoarding them was truly a case of missing the point. They are the cheapest to buy but the most expensive to operate. LED lamps use 1/10 the electricity. And as I pointed out earlier, that means LEDs are not only cheaper overall, but are responsible for only 1/10 the carbon pollution. Individually it's no big deal, but collectively it adds up to quite a lot.

That's the point.
But what if your frig is seven or older and you simply can't afford to replace it. That is a LOT of people. If I had an older one which ran reliably I'd keep it over a new one which seems to die so much quicker. As a matter of fact, the one I have which is 'efficent' and has been serviced within the first year probably won't make it but I'll look for an older refirb. Partly because I'm tired of appliance which go belly up in a few years and partly because I can afford a refirb, NOT a new one.

The simple fact is people can buy what they can afford, and if the washer or frig or ? is working it stays until it dies.

And as winter arrives, I need a nice warm incandescent light to sit under the sink and keep the stupid plastic pipes from freezing. I like the new ones, but they won't do that. I need to find a package. Items in a house have often got multiple uses and new versions don't replace old ones.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:58 PM
 
Location: I am right here.
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Just make sure you carry a house key outside. We had one, but used a rod to keep it secure. Went out with the rod next to it, look back and the cat is playing with it and it... falls in place. Had no key. Mom had to break the bathroom window and I climbed in to open the door. We kept keys on us after that.
Oh those rascals! I have the locks with the codes on my other doors, so luckily, I do not have to remember a key...just the codes!
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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I have three fridges as the second one is always too full.
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Having the Washington Post tell me it's a bad idea makes me feel like buying a third fridge.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:01 PM
 
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He would do better filling it with jugs of water. Paper doesn't retain its temperature well. Water, once frozen, would go much further in assisting the freezer with not needing to run.
The papers are not a good idea and the water is even worse. Any idea how much energy it takes to cool down that water? Unless you are actually going to use the frozen jug for something you're wasting money. What you are trying to achieve when filling a fridge/freezer is preventing a large volume of cold air spilling out when you open the door. The best thing you can use is empty jugs because it requires very little energy to cool the air down.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:25 PM
 
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Guess we should all turn off our computers now and shut off rooms not in. LOL
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Ontario
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How about not having that extra kid? Abortion is green and you rarely hear that being promoted.
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