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Old 03-31-2015, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
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Did you ever think about all the pollution that's being caused by low speed limits?

Just as an example; My car doesn't get out of second gear until above 30mph, then above 35mph to get out of third, the torque converter doesn't lock until above 50mph, and that's when I'm driving lethargically.
Just think of all those extra revs per mile being done, and all that extra friction wasting energy, making pollution, and wasting fuel.

I'm thinking pollution should be taken into consideration, when speed limits are planned.
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Old 03-31-2015, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Logic is not allowed.
STOP IT!!
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Old 03-31-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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True, but far more pollution is caused by the lack of sufficient roads to handle the traffic. All of those cars idling at red lights and in freeway traffic jams are contributing far more smog than the low speed limits. Speed limits are supposedly set strictly on the basis of safety, without regard to pollution, however in many cases it's political, when people whine about cars zipping by their homes the city reduces the speed limit.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Did you ever think about all the pollution that's being caused by low speed limits?

Just as an example; My car doesn't get out of second gear until above 30mph, then above 35mph to get out of third, the torque converter doesn't lock until above 50mph, and that's when I'm driving lethargically.
Just think of all those extra revs per mile being done, and all that extra friction wasting energy, making pollution, and wasting fuel.

I'm thinking pollution should be taken into consideration, when speed limits are planned.
The solution to the problem you have is called a manual transmission. This solution has been around for a very long time.

For some it is inconvenient. Then the question is what you value more, inconvenience or saving fuel?

Another solution readily available to you is a car with an 8 speed automatic transmission. You old car will be recycled or reused, about 100%.

It isn't all that difficult.
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
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The solution to the problem you have is called a manual transmission. This solution has been around for a very long time.

For some it is inconvenient. Then the question is what you value more, inconvenience or saving fuel?

Another solution readily available to you is a car with an 8 speed automatic transmission. You old car will be recycled or reused, about 100%.

It isn't all that difficult.
So your answer is to throw money at it, to solve a problem that's been engineered, just to make a problem.

I've got a manual, and that's why I have an automatic. Having the 8 speed won't solve the problem, the car will still stay in a low gear if that's where it wants to be for the speed.

You can only make an engine labour so far, before you start to do damage.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:10 AM
 
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I like our Volt. No pollution when stopped at a light. It only has a one speed transmission in it to. it handles reverse and forward.

In certain circumstances I think you are correct in low speed limits and stop signs. I don't like round a bouts, even though they supposedly may traffic flow better.

8-speed transmission is so last year. The new thing is 10-speed automatics for non-ev drivetrain vehicles.

Ohh and my Volt gets better mileage the slower you go. But all cars have a sweet spot for mileage. Some are higher than others.

Now, my diesel truck... Idling in it stinks. And going over abut 55 you start to lose MPG. Although I can't really stand going 55 in a 65 for very long. I have to set cruise or I end up at 80...

I miss my manual cars - however - unless it is going to be a collector car at one point I won't buy one as the percentage of people that can drive them are going down and even those that can drive them prefer not to.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:36 AM
 
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Did you ever think about all the pollution that's being caused by low speed limits?

Just as an example; My car doesn't get out of second gear until above 30mph, then above 35mph to get out of third, the torque converter doesn't lock until above 50mph, and that's when I'm driving lethargically.
Just think of all those extra revs per mile being done, and all that extra friction wasting energy, making pollution, and wasting fuel.

I'm thinking pollution should be taken into consideration, when speed limits are planned.
As the speed increases so does the pressure from the air. As the air pressure increases so does the energy required to propel it forward. Low RPM's doesn't necessarily mean low fuel usage either.

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Old 04-02-2015, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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There are way too many people who do not live close enough to where they work. Having millions of cars idling in rush hour traffic for hours on end every day is insane.
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:02 PM
 
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Wait... You want people to live CLOSE to where they work? I thought we already decided logic wasn't allowed here.

After years of a long commute to work and not really being able to live close to work as my employer kept changing my work assignment, I can tell you, I hated it. And they provided the car and gas to go to and from.
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