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Old 09-04-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: DC
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I thik they are a lot prettier than coal and nuclear plants with giant cooling towers.
Less environmental damage too.
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Good thing electricity is invisible or we would need for all of us to be blind. If you want a technical civilization you are going to have to make some visual accommodations. I like a technical civilization. if you don't like what it looks like too damn bad.


FWIW - All nuclear power plants release much less radioactivity than the fly ash pile at your ordinary coal fired power plant.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:43 PM
 
Location: DC
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Good thing electricity is invisible or we would need for all of us to be blind. If you want a technical civilization you are going to have to make some visual accommodations. I like a technical civilization. if you don't like what it looks like too damn bad.


FWIW - All nuclear power plants release much less radioactivity than the fly ash pile at your ordinary coal fired power plant.
I think Fukushima released more.
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Old 09-08-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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I think Fukushima released more.
Maybe, but it certainly did little actual damage.

There were exactly ZERO human illnesses caused by the Fukushima incident, while there were 1000 deaths due to the evacuation efforts. (That makes makes good sense, doesn't it?) The evacuated area was ready to be reclaimed within three months of the accident, the half life of the major contaminant, I-131, having a half life of only 8 days.

Nuclear power remains by far the safest energy source.
\http://www.world-nuclear.org/informa...-accident.aspx
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Maybe, but it certainly did little actual damage.

There were exactly ZERO human illnesses caused by the Fukushima incident, while there were 1000 deaths due to the evacuation efforts. (That makes makes good sense, doesn't it?) The evacuated area was ready to be reclaimed within three months of the accident, the half life of the major contaminant, I-131, having a half life of only 8 days.

Nuclear power remains by far the safest energy source.
\Fukushima Accident - World Nuclear Association
Radiation deaths take years to materialize. There have been few deaths because almost 200 thousand people have been relocated out of the contaminated area.

Nuclear plants as safe until somebody screws up and then they are a world scale disaster.
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:36 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Radiation deaths take years to materialize. There have been few deaths because almost 200 thousand people have been relocated out of the contaminated area.

Nuclear plants as safe until somebody screws up and then they are a world scale disaster.

Myth and speculation. Nuclear energy has been around for 70 yrs. Can you name a "world class disaster?" Even Chernobyl (not an accident but a stupid maneuver) only caused a few illnesses and the area had been completely reclaimed by a healthy natural ecosystem yrs ago.

The relocated people in Japan could have returned in 3 months, but that scenario was unacceptable for the politically correct narrative.

The Fukushima accident occurred 7 y/a-- plenty of time for radiation induced illness to have shown up- but still hasn't. If you would bother to read the final reports after the WWII use of nuclear weapons, you would be impressed by the lack of long term health effects.
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Old 09-10-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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Myth and speculation. Nuclear energy has been around for 70 yrs. Can you name a "world class disaster?" Even Chernobyl (not an accident but a stupid maneuver) only caused a few illnesses and the area had been completely reclaimed by a healthy natural ecosystem yrs ago.

The relocated people in Japan could have returned in 3 months, but that scenario was unacceptable for the politically correct narrative.

The Fukushima accident occurred 7 y/a-- plenty of time for radiation induced illness to have shown up- but still hasn't. If you would bother to read the final reports after the WWII use of nuclear weapons, you would be impressed by the lack of long term health effects.
Guido, once again you pick a fight with someone who knows way more about a subject than you. Chernobyl was certainly a world class disaster as the radiation plume shows.



30,000 deaths

http://www.unscear.org/unscear/en/pu...ns/2008_1.html
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Old 09-10-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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BFD.

Show some damage it did.

The explosion itself killed 28. It could have been any industrial accident. It just happened to be a nuclear facility. The radiation exposure has caused only 15 excess cases of thyroid cancer in a population of 400,000 over the next 10 yrs.

From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

"Risk analysis, supported by DNA biomarkers, has determined that the "people still living unofficially in the abandoned lands around Chernobyl" have a lower risk of dying as a result of the elevated doses of radiation in the rural areas than "if they were exposed to the air pollution health risk in a large city such as nearby Kiev."[21][16]"

The report you cited, BTW, is from the UN a group of liars commonly distorting the scientific record for political benefit.
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Old 09-11-2017, 04:08 AM
 
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People who disagree with you are always liars.
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Old 09-11-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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BFD.

Show some damage it did.

The explosion itself killed 28. It could have been any industrial accident. It just happened to be a nuclear facility. The radiation exposure has caused only 15 excess cases of thyroid cancer in a population of 400,000 over the next 10 yrs.

From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

"Risk analysis, supported by DNA biomarkers, has determined that the "people still living unofficially in the abandoned lands around Chernobyl" have a lower risk of dying as a result of the elevated doses of radiation in the rural areas than "if they were exposed to the air pollution health risk in a large city such as nearby Kiev."[21][16]"

The report you cited, BTW, is from the UN a group of liars commonly distorting the scientific record for political benefit.
People who disagree with you are always liars.
I don't know that poster's track record. I know the U.N.'s record of telling the truth and it's not good.
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