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Old 04-27-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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serious science says that we are approaching another Little Ice Age. Not global warming disaster. Which the one mentioned was AFTER a period of warming too.
Can you link to the serious science of which you speak?
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Old 04-27-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: DC
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Correct. And, unlike politicians or scientists from politics, serious science says that we are approaching another Little Ice Age. Not global warming disaster. Which the one mentioned was AFTER a period of warming too.
In 50 thousand years or so.
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Old 04-27-2017, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Realty is, we can do no more or less about regional of global climate change than the medieval Vikings could have. Research why their settlements in Greenland failed. The climate eventually became too cold to farm, so they turned primarily to seafood, and then either starved, froze or went back to Scandinavia.(result of the mini ice age which continued until the late 19th/early twentieth century.
This ^^^ is a correct statement. However the AGW issue is an overlay of human caused warming on top of natural climate change. The human component is very evident in the record, that is why it is called AGW - the A = anthropogenic, i.e., human caused.

The problem with AGW is that while the historical record is very clear that humans have caused an alarming amount of warming over the last 150 years or so, nobody really knows where it is headed. Anybody who says that he/she "knows" what will happen is full of beans - the ocean may rise 6" or 60' over the next century. It is an enormously complex problem that is extremely sensitive to boundary conditions and is prone to all sorts of errors. I used to do computer modeling when I was a researcher at the University of Washington so have some familiarity with the technique.

That is not to say we shouldn't do something about future AGW but it is not a slam-dunk issue. About the best we can do is hedge our bets and try to reverse or at least stop the addition of new carbon into the earth carbon cycle. But again, the end result might be the same if we did nothing, or it might be that the warming self-limited by other mechanisms (such as increased cloud cover), or it might be that AGW temps stabilize once we stop adding carbon to the cycle. We just don't really know.

What we do know is that eventually we will run out of fossil fuels. Coal and oil are finite resources; petroleum much more so. We may as well wean ourselves off of petroleum now since we will have to one day anyway.
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Old 04-28-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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From what I heard, agriculture (deforestation) and animal husbandry is emitting far more green house gases than cars, factories combined. No body except few talk about it at this time. There are activists are being killed in South America for resisting deforestation and expansion of agriculture. But resistance is not a viable solution, as long as population grows, people need to eat and deforestataion will continue.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Where you aren't
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There's the science we have all missed from the alt right
Yet you believe voted on science is much better. The red flags go up when the radical left wants to actually jail and punish people for questioning climate science. That is NOT honest science.
Natural climate change, yes. Man made climate change, no, government made climate change, yes! https://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley...ckfeature.html

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Old 05-09-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: DC
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Who has been jailed?
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Old 05-09-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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Who has been jailed?
Seriously that is the only thing you noticed in my post!?

No one has been jailed so far, but many radical leftists have called for it. These can be found on the mainstream press, go search for it.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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The only answer at this point is figuring out a way to reduce the population and putting in place policy at the global level to counter it. Concentration camps housing approximately half of the people of the planet will be needed, where they can be given a nice diet of alternative protein - i.e. insects.

The global elite will of course be exempt, because we need them and they shall be allowed to continue their lifestyle, unaltered.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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The only answer at this point is figuring out a way to reduce the population and putting in place policy at the global level to counter it. Concentration camps housing approximately half of the people of the planet will be needed, where they can be given a nice diet of alternative protein - i.e. insects.

The global elite will of course be exempt, because we need them and they shall be allowed to continue their lifestyle, unaltered.
Yes, there is a plan in place, it was formulated by the U.N. and agreed upon in 1992, it is called Agenda 21 and it falls under the pretext of “Sustainable Development”, but it is much more far reaching than just sustainable development.
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Old 05-12-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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If anyone wants to find out what experts say, just go here and ignore the conspiracy theorists...

https://climate.nasa.gov
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