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Old 11-05-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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I think Congress should declare a National Hobby!!!!!!!!!!!

The National Hobby should be called "SAVE THE CLIMATE"
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:18 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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So now you are calling for the government to enforce hobbies on everyone?
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Old 11-10-2020, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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more like concern for the environment.




I'd like it if people started caring instead of making excuses and rationalizations not to but I see very little sign of that.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:35 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Pretty expensive hobby.

The Green New Deal is estimated to cost the average American household $60,000/yr (!!) over the next decade and Biden's announced plans will cost us $1.7 TRILLION (almost 10% of a yr's GDP) in order to mitigate 0.1degC of climate change

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/11/...rming-by-0-1c/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_...er%20household.

Maybe a national hobby like whistling rap music tunes would make more sense.
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Old 11-11-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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Maybe we can start by getting that "collective farming" thing going again.
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Old 11-11-2020, 06:23 PM
 
Location: DC
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Pv is now the cheapest option for electricity in most areas. The green new deal will prosper all on its own.
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Old 11-11-2020, 11:09 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Conservation is a great way to engage the public. (and get immediate results)
But that would mean thousands of cush gov jobs would not be required.

That ain't gonna happen!

Been doing solar, keeping vintage auto, farm, manufacturing, and construction equipment functional and driving a 50 mpg car for over 40 yrs. Saved 20,000+ gal of fuel for others to waste.

No mad rush to do as I have done daily my entire adult life.

Good thing I don't have a 'hobby club', I would be really lonely.
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Old 11-12-2020, 01:54 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Pv is now the cheapest option for electricity in most areas.
Only when you count excessive local taxation of grid power & govt subsidies for PV, and forget to include cost of back-up. It seems PV is still 50% more expensive than CC NG. Solar Electricity Cost vs. Regular Electricity Cost
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:39 AM
 
Location: DC
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Only when you count excessive local taxation of grid power & govt subsidies for PV, and forget to include cost of back-up. It seems PV is still 50% more expensive than CC NG. Solar Electricity Cost vs. Regular Electricity Cost
At less than $1/watt and falling, the future is here. Houses will soon be shingled with pv cells. We'll still have electric utilities, but distributed generation will become a major resource.
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Old 11-12-2020, 09:40 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmu...h=3bc8c00861d5

There seems to be a sweet spot in the formula for cost effective power generation, with renewables only accounting for ~30% of the mix at that point. More renewables means more need for reliable back-up generation.

Those who figure the costs of generation by renewables to be so low only factor in capital, operating and maintenance costs of the renewable installations themselves while ignoring the cost of maintaining reliable back-up capacity.

...and at only 30% of the mix, renewables have only a minimal effect on co2 production, for those who still seem to think that's an important factor.
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