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Old 09-09-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I had to replace my roof after some storm damage last March. Yes, I wanted that Tesla roof but all the hype about it being affordable was pretty much not true. Maybe Mr. Musk was comparing the price with the hand cut slate from France he had on his roof. Anyway couldn't afford almost 100K for an average house roof.

I bought white shingles hoping they would save me some money. It looks kind of funky on my Spanish style house in a neighborhood with pretty uniform dark brown roofs. I had already beefed up the insulation and replaced the windows and doors. The white shingles have turned out to be the best thing I have done to lower my energy bill.

I just got my bill and for the first August ever, it is under $300. It was $232 to be exact. I saved over $100 just by changing to white shingles. I no longer care if it looks funky! Since I live in Las Vegas, I don't have to worry about snow and cold. Lots of Winters I never even turn on the heat. The concern is always the cost of AC in the heat. So no downside to the white shingles for me.
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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Thay is an excellent result. I had my attic insulation upgraded at the same time I did my roof. Remarkable difference in the comfort level and in the electric bills.
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Old 09-09-2017, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I just got my bill and for the first August ever, it is under $300. It was $232 to be exact. I saved over $100 just by changing to white shingles. I no longer care if it looks funky! Since I live in Las Vegas, I don't have to worry about snow and cold. Lots of Winters I never even turn on the heat. The concern is always the cost of AC in the heat. So no downside to the white shingles for me.
I'm glad that is an improvement for you. That sounds like a great improvement for just the shingle color. I put in extra insulation and a high efficiency HCAC system 10 years ago in my 2,349 SF house. My highest elec bill in Texas is now $124 in August, was only $32 in Feb (Gas Heat).
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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For awhile we were getting tax credits for putting in white roofs. Hawaii has extremely high electric rates so most folks can't afford A/C. A blazing white roof and really wide roof overhangs (to shade the sides of the house) do a lot to keep down solar heat getting into the house.

If you're building a house, high ceilings help by giving hot air a place to go. On some of the older houses raised on post and pier foundations, there will be a vent towards the middle of the house opening to the cooler under house area. Then there's vents up near the ceiling to let the heated air out. A well designed house can be significantly cooler.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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For awhile we were getting tax credits for putting in white roofs. Hawaii has extremely high electric rates so most folks can't afford A/C. A blazing white roof and really wide roof overhangs (to shade the sides of the house) do a lot to keep down solar heat getting into the house.

If you're building a house, high ceilings help by giving hot air a place to go. On some of the older houses raised on post and pier foundations, there will be a vent towards the middle of the house opening to the cooler under house area. Then there's vents up near the ceiling to let the heated air out. A well designed house can be significantly cooler.
Right now there is still a federal tax credit of $500 if you use energy star products. I did. And you are right there would be a lot more savings if our homes were designed better. If I can ever afford solar panels I will put them on the south side of the house where the panels will shade the exterior wall.

My subdivision in Las Vegas still has maybe 80% dark brown roofs. The worst for energy consumption. You'd think white roofs would be a no brainer!
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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The Romans kept buildings cool by trickling water over the roofs and down the walls. Of course their aqueducts provided plenty of water.

My last house in Chicago was significantly cooler in the summer after I allowed trumpet vines to cover the south & west walls. The east was already shaded by trees.

Now I'm in WI and building an earth-berm house, anticipating significant effects on keeping warmer in winter and cooler in summer.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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My subdivision in Las Vegas still has maybe 80% dark brown roofs. The worst for energy consumption. You'd think white roofs would be a no brainer!
I wish I could have one! But the HOA forbids it.
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:06 AM
 
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Now I'm in WI and building an earth-berm house, anticipating significant effects on keeping warmer in winter and cooler in summer.
I'd really like to hear how that works out.
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I wish I could have one! But the HOA forbids it.
One of the reasons I made sure there was no HOA before I bought my house.

Maybe you can run for the HOA board and change the rules. Perhaps many of the residents would like to be more energy efficient?
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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I'd really like to hear how that works out.
Up-date: I got the roof on and walls framed up, sheathed & insulated a couple weeks ago (no insulation in ceiling yet); doors & windows in place. Weather has been overcast and temps 15- 45deg over past two weeks. Inside temps stable ~ 42degF all day & nite. I think that's pretty good considering there's 135 ft of wall exposed to the outside air, (as opposed to 115 ft of wall exposed to earth- berm) and 50 ft of that is glass with only northern exposure.

Just finished the install on the wood burning boiler (gasification with computer regulated air flow/burn rate) late yesterday and fired up. It has to get ~260 gal of water & concrete in which its embedded up to temp, having started @ 42deg. It's up to 50deg this AM.
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