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Old 05-29-2008, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Jax
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I buy items built in metric so I don't have to throw them out when standard tools are not made anymore. Also in the store, I buy the metricated size since they tend to contain a larger amount than the colonial size.
Interesting! Now that's thinking ahead!

I'm going to keep your tip in mind about buying in metricated size .
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Katy-zuela
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Interesting! Now that's thinking ahead!

I'm going to keep your tip in mind about buying in metricated size .
Let me tell you the story on how I got involved in metrication. 2 years ago, I was at the grocery store trying to buy soda. I was trying to be green at the time by reducing my waste. I had to choose between the soda bottle and the 12 (or was it the 24)-pack. The cans were 12 oz while the bottle was (of course) 2 L. I was trying to figure out how many oz were in the 2 L bottle (since the shelf label had the unit pricing in oz) but it was listed in quarts between the parenthesis. I knew 2 c = 1 pt; 2 pt = 1 qt; and 4 qt = 1 gal, but I didn't know how many oz were in a cup (? oz = 1 c; A: 8 oz) nor how many oz is in 0.1 qt. So I used metric and figured out the unit pricing using my knowledge of the metric system from my high school chemistry class a year before. The bottle was cheaper, more portable, and greener because I always feel guilty if I don't recycle the cans and it's far from my house to the metal yard to cash them in not to mention the pollution created by the exhaust of a 20 km drive.

Can you imagine how much plastic was saved over 30 years by with the extra 108 mL of soda that were added when production switched between 2 qt to 2 L bottles? Now can you imagine the waste generated by a 215 mL smaller 1 gallon plastic milk jug versus the larger 4 L size over those 30 years?
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Jax
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Let me tell you the story on how I got involved in metrication. 2 years ago, I was at the grocery store trying to buy soda. I was trying to be green at the time by reducing my waste. I had to choose between the soda bottle and the 12 (or was it the 24)-pack. The cans were 12 oz while the bottle was (of course) 2 L. I was trying to figure out how many oz were in the 2 L bottle (since the shelf label had the unit pricing in oz) but it was listed in quarts between the parenthesis. I knew 2 c = 1 pt; 2 pt = 1 qt; and 4 qt = 1 gal, but I didn't know how many oz were in a cup (? oz = 1 c; A: 8 oz) nor how many oz is in 0.1 qt. So I used metric and figured out the unit pricing using my knowledge of the metric system from my high school chemistry class a year before. The bottle was cheaper, more portable, and greener because I always feel guilty if I don't recycle the cans and it's far from my house to the metal yard to cash them in not to mention the pollution created by the exhaust of a 20 km drive.

Can you imagine how much plastic was saved over 30 years by with the extra 108 mL of soda that were added when production switched between 2 qt to 2 L bottles? Now can you imagine the waste generated by a 215 mL smaller 1 gallon plastic milk jug versus the larger 4 L size over those 30 years?
Looks like I'll need to bring you shopping with me...that's a lot of math!

But yes, I see your point, by the manufacturer making that small change, a big cumulative change happened .
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Norcross GA
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I have started using the reusable bags for all my shopping. Old habits are so hard to break, sometimes I leave them in the car. I want to get away from bottle water and it will happen cause I am feeling guilty. I have started turning off the water while brusing my teeth. Once I buy my home I plan to really step it up. Like my apt complex is useless. There is no recyclable bins so we have to tote plastic bottles and phone books, etc to a location and most people aren't going to do it!
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Katy-zuela
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I have started using the reusable bags for all my shopping. Old habits are so hard to break, sometimes I leave them in the car. I want to get away from bottle water and it will happen cause I am feeling guilty. I have started turning off the water while brusing my teeth. Once I buy my home I plan to really step it up. Like my apt complex is useless. There is no recyclable bins so we have to tote plastic bottles and phone books, etc to a location and most people aren't going to do it!
San Francisco banned plastic bags already. Did it catch on in the rest of California?
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:46 PM
 
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I drive a lot closer to people to stay in the draft and I coast down hills!
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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For almost forty years I was a boilermaker and spent alot of that time installing and maintaining anti-pollution equipment in powerhouses, steelmills, refineries and chemical plants. Baghouses, precipitators, overfired air and stuff like that. Built a couple of nukes too, holding down the carbon and all that.

Of course I did it for the money not from any belief in ecology, I was green for the green.
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Old 06-06-2008, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Where the real happy cows reside!
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If I'm not using it, I unplug it! Hate to think of all that energy being sucked out of the grid for no reason. Drove the hubster nuts at first, since he'd go to use the microwave and forget it wasn't plugged in
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Old 06-11-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Sound Beach
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We put our girls in Cloth diapers. It only takes about a week to get into the new pattern of changing/cleaning...and it saves a few thousand diapers from going in the landfill. After about 5 month...they have paid for themselves in the cost of disposables. We took an extra step and use only organic cotton cloth wipes.

We do have 1-2 extra loads of laundry per week...the only negative we have been able to come up with (other then handling stinky diapers
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:45 AM
 
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My friend talked about doing two other things that I have now adopted. Using cloth handerchiefs instead of Kleenex and using rags in place of paper towels.
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