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Old 04-15-2008, 09:52 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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So there is a method to the madness?
doubt it... only by accident, they (majority of politicians) aren't that smart...
besides I think we are 'down-wind' of the major polluters, so it won't get too clear till we stop buying junk

USA could legislate a major 'conservation' effort if they wanted to make immediate ecology improvements (rationing, fuel only for work Trucks, mass transit and tractors..) Of course that won't lower the price. Valuing oil in the US greenback has done it's damage on the world economy.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:30 PM
 
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USA could legislate a major 'conservation' effort if they wanted to make immediate ecology improvements (rationing, fuel only for work Trucks, mass transit and tractors..)
Only for work trucks, mass transit, and tractors? I would love to hear an explanation about how those living outside of mass transit systems are supposed to get around. I would be one of them. There are no transit systems at all that would take me to work, other than my car. My job is far from the bus system of Knoxville, and I would guess that at least half of America lives where there is no mass transit available. Ever try to catch a bus, train, or subway in a city of 5,000?

We need to get off oil, no doubt about it, for tons of reasons. Quiet honestly, I think things are starting to move in the right direction and at an appropriate speed. As gas prices keep rising, the demand will drop for it while the demand for alternatives skyrocket. We are already seeing every major car manufacturer working quickly to make more hybrids and increase MPG. That trend will rapidly accelerate as gas prices hit new records.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:01 PM
 
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If all I had was mass transit for travel I would have to close up shop. Even when I can catch a bus I sure as Hell won't be carrying computer systems a couple of miles (or considerably more in a couple of cases) to a client site. This country hasn't got the will or the brains to set up real mass transit anyway. If it did we'd already have high speed trains criss-crossing the entire country.

But those trains won't make Mr. Bush and his cronies money from oil sales so it doesn't stand a chance until the leadership changes. Even then I'm not holding my breath. There's not a politician in this country with enough gumption to get it done.
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:46 PM
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Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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300 million Americans conserving won't lower gas prices with 500 million Chinese and Indians entering the middle class.

American cities MUST change their entire layout to what it was pre WWII. The low density- cars only method doesn't work in today's world, except for the very wealthy
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