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But a new report has found that electric cars will make up just 4% of American sales in 2021, compared with 9% in China and 14% of new sales in Europe.
This is in line with a distinct recent trend – while electric vehicles are on the rise in the US, with the fleet climbing at an annual rate of 28% between 2015 and 2020, the other major car markets have pulled significantly ahead. The electric vehicle fleet grew at 51% a year in China over the same five-year period, while Europe has seen a 41% annual increase.
A lack of federal government support for electric vehicles, cheap gasoline prices in the US and a paucity of charging infrastructure is holding back progress, the report by ING found, with a drastic increase to nearly 9m zero-emission car sales needed by 2030 to hit the administration’s goal.
Sometimes change happens slowly, then slowly, then all of a sudden........let's hope....
Sometimes change happens slowly, then slowly, then all of a sudden........let's hope....
The money math will probably make the biggest hit. I think we covered that Local Grid Tied Solar PV can be down in the 3 cents per kWh range.
Now applying that to the combination of Local Grid-tied Solar PV + EV gives some really wild numbers . . .
Translated into cost per mile, when ran through an Electric Motor EV, compared to a Retail Gasoline ICE == it is like buying Gasoline at 19 cents per gallon.
Here is the Math:
3 cents per kWh = 0.003 cents per Watt-hour.
250 Watt-hours per mile for typical EV.
25 Miles per gallon for typical car.
EV fuel costs per mile = 0.003 x 250 = .75 cents.
Equivalent Gasoline price per mile = .75 x 25 = 18.75 cents per gallon.
Do you ever recall Gasoline below 20 cents per gallon?
so all the EV drivers who claim to be saving money is not saving as much as they thought
Big difference between taxes on fuel and cost of fuel. As far as "fuel" - my cost per mile is about $0.013 in NV and $0.03 in CA for EV - right now gas would be about $0.12/mile in CA (@ 40 mpg) and $0.10 in NV - so 4-8x more for gas per mile than electricity for EV.
Using True cost data from KBB - a Tesla Model 3 is about 40% less ($20K less) over 5 years than its ICE competitors - much of that is "fuel" but also lower maintenance and depreciation costs. But frankly, I drive EV because more fun.
Big difference between taxes on fuel and cost of fuel. As far as "fuel" - my cost per mile is about $0.013 in NV and $0.03 in CA for EV - right now gas would be about $0.12/mile in CA (@ 40 mpg) and $0.10 in NV - so 4-8x more for gas per mile than electricity for EV.
Using True cost data from KBB - a Tesla Model 3 is about 40% less ($20K less) over 5 years than its ICE competitors - much of that is "fuel" but also lower maintenance and depreciation costs. But frankly, I drive EV because more fun.
But that 40% ($20K) saved on fuel is as much (or less) than the extra capital cost of the EV compared to a similar ICE vehicle.
Battery packs are usually warranteed for 100,000 miles. If that correlate well with actual useful life, then count on $5-15K replacement costs every 10 yrs ....How many of us put that much money into repair of ICEs over 10 yrs? Oil changes every 5000 mi over 100,000 miles would run ~ $400 total. ....Cost of a brake job on a regenerative braking system? https://lujackhyundai.com/service-an...tric-cars.html
It doesn't look like arguing the economic advantages of EVs hold up well in the over all picture. It'll take the offering of a "Model T" EV to make the economics advantageous.
My EV has a range of about 40, but it also has an onboard generator which I rarely use unless I am on a trip. Since I have a "gasoline motor", I don't have to pay the surcharge at the DMV.
IMO, it is the best of both worlds and I never have range anxiety.
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so all the EV drivers who claim to be saving money is not saving as much as they thought
Those who commute to work every day but live within a distance allowing for nightly charging can save money buying one of the less expensive EVs. For me, with a 5.0 V8 F150 getting only 15/19mpg I would not save money, because I'm working from home, for the last 18 months, and drove only 3,000 miles in that time, mostly towing/hauling. It would take many years to cover the gas savings even with the cost of a Leaf.
The Covid work from home or hybrid work model will have a negative influence on EV sales.
Those who commute to work every day but live within a distance allowing for nightly charging can save money buying one of the less expensive EVs. For me, with a 5.0 V8 F150 getting only 15/19mpg I would not save money, because I'm working from home, for the last 18 months, and drove only 3,000 miles in that time, mostly towing/hauling. It would take many years to cover the gas savings even with the cost of a Leaf.
The Covid work from home or hybrid work model will have a negative influence on EV sales.
It only makes sense to buy an EV if you are already in the market for a car. That's what I did, anyway.
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