Scientists Call AP Report on Global Warming 'Hysteria' (effective, environmental, better)

[rlchurch]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

Here's some more BS typically thrown about by the environnazi's. This picture was posted by someone else on my hosts forum, I unfortunately cannot find the original blog article but i have no doubt it it said something like pollution from a coal plant:




Looks bad right? Well first of all we were tossing around the idea this might be photoshopped but that's really besides the point. The large wide stacks you see in the midddle would be cooling towers which produce noithing but water vapor.... The tall skinny stacks to the right assuming this is in fact a coal plant would be the stacks where any coal emiisions would come from....however as anyone knows under the right conditions when heated air hits cold air condensation forms. Finally "wet scrubbers" which is one form of pollution control used at coal fired plants use water which will produce condensation making any stack appear as if spewing a trmendous amount of pollution.

I'm in no way suggesting that coal does not cause pollution but again it's propaganda like this that really needs to be examined. Do your research and don't be led around. I wonder how many people read the article where that came from and thought 'Oh my".... when all they were seeing was water.

Propaganda? It's either a picture of a coal plant or not. Looks about right to me, although the green trees nearby seem strange. Normally they would be brown. Maybe someone Photoshopped leaves in.

[thecoalman]

Propaganda? It's either a picture of a coal plant or not. Looks about right to me, although the green trees nearby seem strange. Normally they would be brown. Maybe someone Photoshopped leaves in.

I rest my case. Thank you for exemplifying why this image is propaganda.

Are you that ignorant? So water vapor is harmful? The gist of showing a picture like that is just a scare tactic. You can get the very same picture form a nuclear power plant where those towers are more common and that is certainly not pollution. The point is that it's quite misleading when someone such as yourself that knows no better is presented with such an image.

I'm going to take a picture of my neighbors solar panels when some mist is burning off them in the morning and declare it pollution.

As far as the photshop we were discussing the possibility the black cloud from the cooling tower in the very forefront was photoshopped because generally speaking water doesn't give off a black cloud. It was either photoshopped or caused by the lighting when the picture was taken.

[rlchurch]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

I rest my case. Thank you for exemplifying why this image is propaganda.

Are you that ignorant? So water vapor is harmful? The gist of showing a picture like that is just a scare tactic. You can get the very same picture form a nuclear power plant where those towers are more common and that is certainly not pollution. The point is that it's quite misleading when someone such as yourself that knows no better is presented with such an image.

I'm going to take a picture of my neighbors solar panels when some mist is burning off them in the morning and declare it pollution.

As far as the photshop we were discussing the possibility the black cloud from the cooling tower in the very forefront was photoshopped because generally speaking water doesn't give off a black cloud. It was either photoshopped or caused by the lighting when the picture was taken.

I didn't say water vaopr was harmful, I said it was a picture of a coal plant. My guess is that the picture was taken with a contrast enhancing filter.

[shadowwalker]

Global warming is a joke. This is just the natural rythum of the planet. Go back for centuries and check out the pattern.
AL GORE IS A IDIOT. Famous, but a idiot. But er-"people" do believe his drivel in huge amounts

[rlchurch]

Originally Posted by shadowwalker

Global warming is a joke. This is just the natural rythum of the planet. Go back for centuries and check out the pattern.
AL GORE IS A IDIOT. Famous, but a idiot. But er-"people" do believe his drivel in huge amounts

Yeah he just pulled the wool over the eyes of every scientific professional society in America.

[fatchance2005]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

Here's some more BS typically thrown about by the environnazi's. This picture was posted by someone else on my hosts forum, I unfortunately cannot find the original blog article but i have no doubt it it said something like pollution from a coal plant:




Looks bad right? Well first of all we were tossing around the idea this might be photoshopped but that's really besides the point. The large wide stacks you see in the midddle would be cooling towers which produce noithing but water vapor.... The tall skinny stacks to the right assuming this is in fact a coal plant would be the stacks where any coal emiisions would come from....however as anyone knows under the right conditions when heated air hits cold air condensation forms. Finally "wet scrubbers" which is one form of pollution control used at coal fired plants use water which will produce condensation making any stack appear as if spewing a trmendous amount of pollution.

I'm in no way suggesting that coal does not cause pollution but again it's propaganda like this that really needs to be examined. Do your research and don't be led around. I wonder how many people read the article where that came from and thought 'Oh my".... when all they were seeing was water.

This looks to me like a bad photoshop job to me. Middle-school at most. Since you're so excited about it, I'm sure you won't mind presenting your evidence that it is the work of your posited "environazi's". After all, the environmental movement (or Conservation, as we Republicans prefer to call it) was founded by Theodore Roosevelt, one of the great Conservatives. He was the first political figure to point out that importance of wise environmental management to National Security. Now this important Conservative value is under attack by the Neocon thugs who would do anything to compromise National Security in order to to put forward their lazy self-interested agenda. I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to manufacture evidence as they do on every othe issue. I'm sure you are intelligent enough not to count the appearance of the photo on a website or something of that nature as "evidence" of its origins.

[vec101]

Originally Posted by fatchance2005

This looks to me like a bad photoshop job to me. Middle-school at most. Since you're so excited about it, I'm sure you won't mind presenting your evidence that it is the work of your posited "environazi's". After all, the environmental movement (or Conservation, as we Republicans prefer to call it) was founded by Theodore Roosevelt, one of the great Conservatives. He was the first political figure to point out that importance of wise environmental management to National Security. Now this important Conservative value is under attack by the Neocon thugs who would do anything to compromise National Security in order to to put forward their lazy self-interested agenda. I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to manufacture evidence as they do on every othe issue. I'm sure you are intelligent enough not to count the appearance of the photo on a website or something of that nature as "evidence" of its origins.

So, you really just want a reason to rant, argue with someone, or try to lord over another? Do you even really care about any issues?

[evilnewbie]

Its easier for a lot of people to believe than actually prove... the global warming fanatics only problem is to get the people who don't believe in hype and bunk science to believe in their ideology.. cause that's all they have... ideology based on bunk science and a "hip" way of looking at things..

[rlchurch]

Originally Posted by evilnewbie

Its easier for a lot of people to believe than actually prove... the global warming fanatics only problem is to get the people who don't believe in hype and bunk science to believe in their ideology.. cause that's all they have... ideology based on bunk science and a "hip" way of looking at things..

I'm not sure about something. How does someone with your background evaluate science?

[thecoalman]

The URL for the image is this, note I added three *'s to break the URL parser:

http://*** nataliechillington.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/coal-power-plant.jpg

If we remove .files. and the coal-power-plant.jpg from the URL it will take you to here:

2008 May « Environmental Communities

The article in question which I just found was from the previous months page:

Earth First! blockades entrance to coal plant « Environmental Communities


Original image can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davipt/164341428/

Check out the comments and you'll understand my frustration. Nothing but water vapor.