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Old 12-18-2008, 09:26 AM
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Al Gore just wants to tax you for it with his carbon credit system... strangely enough... the carbon credit system is a system of investors... wow... there isn't any conflict of interest there... where are Gore's millions? Oh yeah, they are invested in carbon credit systems.. I heard taxpayers love paying money to investors simply for "being there"...
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:05 AM
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It is like doing the right things for the wrong reason.

Disregard of nature will always bite you in the butt. If nothing else but a renewed respect for nature comes from this controversy, then it is good.

Don't believe we, you, me, Al Gore and the 3rd world, will have much impact on global warming. Maybe create some microclimates and local weather changes but the earth has its own very dynamic agenda. From the shifting of continents to the reshift of continents to the growth of glaciers to the recession of glaciers the earth has gone about her business. Because her plan does not take our requirements into consideration we feel we have to step up and take the reins? How pathetic is that perspective.

1st rule of nature is that it is constantly changing.
2nd rule is that Nature is neutral.
3rd is that we have evolved physiologically to fit into a small, 'temporary' niche circling in an eddy on the river of change. If the changes take place faster than we can evolve we go away.

To think humans are the center of the universe, AGAIN, is quite egocentric and insane. Technology may have developed exponentially but our clan has not. You might even argue we mucked with nature and saved too many lives that should have met their Darwinian fate.

Can guarantee one thing, when the angel Gabriel blows his trumpet to signal the end of the world some guy will be selling 'end of the world' tee-shirts on the street corner making a good profit.
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:20 PM
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""that we have evolved physiologically to fit into a small, 'temporary' niche circling in an eddy on the river of change. If the changes take place faster than we can evolve we go away""
Really says it all, doesn't it? What a gem of a comment.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:05 PM
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Yep and arctic ice at the height of the melting season increased since 2007 but you won't hear a word of it in the main stream press except for some short blurbs here and there and maybe a article on page 57 of the newspaper between the funnies and the obituaries.

One of the opposing theories is we are now entering a cooling phase that will be capped by cold weather in thirty years like we had in the 70's. They can recycle this article.

Another Ice Age? - TIME

Matter of fact they could just recycle it every 30 years and exchange the words heat with cooling and vice versa when appropriate.
Ugh. We had better start polluting like mad to try to warm things up a bit.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:41 PM
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It's silly to think that burning 83,000,000 barrels of oil a day would have any effect on our planet.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:08 PM
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Ugh. We had better start polluting like mad to try to warm things up a bit.
I think prudent and practical reduction of pollution is a necessity however the public has a right to know facts and not have media corporations feeding them a pack of lies. Mass media news outlets are no longer a source of information, their primary goal is to entertain and to push the agendas of the people producing it and the public eats it up.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:34 PM
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I think prudent and practical reduction of pollution is a necessity however the public has a right to know facts and not have media corporations feeding them a pack of lies. Mass media news outlets are no longer a source of information, their primary goal is to entertain and to push the agendas of the people producing it and the public eats it up.
Which is just as true of FOX and the 10 or so "experts" they trot out every time to declaim global climate change every time the "other side" puts out a report (and I am not talking about an AP article).

If you rely on major news media for info on science and technology, you are poorly informed. The US has such a populist anti-science bias at the moment it's just astounding. I was in grade school in the late 60s when science was THE thing, and what everyone wanted to do. Now the sole emphasis is on how to make money.
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:26 PM
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I believe the jury is still out on GW/CC IMO...I mean, if Al Gore was so "sure" of GW, then why won't he debate scientists who take him to task? What is he really afraid of?
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:49 PM
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He's afraid to get buried, lets face it even if he was right he would still lose as he is not going to have the technical knowledge compared to someone that has worked in the field for his entire life.
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:16 PM
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And, of course, this can't possibly be true:

Ice melting across globe at accelerating rate, NASA says
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