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Old 05-13-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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I chose green energy producers. Thanks for proving my point.
Ah, but there's the rub ...

Only a small percentage of the total energy delivered by PJM is "green energy". The balance is produced by natural gas or coal fired power plants.
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Ah, but there's the rub ...

Only a small percentage of the total energy delivered by PJM is "green energy". The balance is produced by natural gas or coal fired power plants.
Yes I know, but I use an even smaller percentage of the green energy delivered into PJM.

BTW some reasonable amount of PJM energy is nuclear.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Cap and Trade bill would destroy the US economy...

households would stand to lose between $1,010 and $2,779 of income each year by 2014. The economy would suffer Gross Domestic Product (GDP) losses of between $135 billion and $269 billion by 2014

Breitbart.tv » Dem Congressman: ‘Nobody in This Country Realizes That Cap-and-Trade is a Tax’
While his heart and mind are in the right place, there are MANY people in this country who know it's Cap n Tax, not cap n trade. Cap n Traitor, maybe. But otherwise Cap n Tax.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:46 PM
 
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Yes I know, but I use an even smaller percentage of the green energy delivered into PJM.

BTW some reasonable amount of PJM energy is nuclear.
(gasp!)

is "nuclear" power production "green"?
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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(gasp!)

is "nuclear" power production "green"?
no it's not green, but better environmentally than coal, IMO. The problem with nuclear is cost. That's why none is being built.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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Yes I know, but I use an even smaller percentage of the green energy delivered into PJM.

BTW some reasonable amount of PJM energy is nuclear.
Moderator cut: No insults or personal attacks
Thanks for playing.

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Old 05-14-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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Guest Blog: Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) Uncovers EPA Deception » The Foundry

Looks like Sen Barrasso called EPA's bluff.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Too bad Waxman's bringing the bill out by early next week.
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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Too bad Waxman's bringing the bill out by early next week.
A very watered down bill.

And it will be resisted by your fellow dems.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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A very watered down bill.

And it will be resisted by your fellow dems.
LOL keep telling yourself that. The initial goal was grossed up by about 150% so that Waxman had some headroom to trade.
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