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Old 07-05-2009, 04:37 PM
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I don't know why, but this notion of "job creation" is very popular, when it comes to any industry. It doesn't really make sense. Parable of the broken window - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Under the popular Keynesian ideas, we might as well start breaking each others windows. After all, it will create jobs for people to make new windows, right?
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:54 PM
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Actually, I think any time there is a move toward something different or new, jobs in the old industry will be lost as the new jobs are created. The trick is to be among the ones that move toward the new. It is a fact of life, neither good nor bad. For example, there are not too many buggywhip manufacturers left, and not too many people trying to get a job in that industry.
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Actually, I think any time there is a move toward something different or new, jobs in the old industry will be lost as the new jobs are created. The trick is to be among the ones that move toward the new. It is a fact of life, neither good nor bad. For example, there are not too many buggywhip manufacturers left, and not too many people trying to get a job in that industry.
Agree, it's good to move toward "new" jobs.
Just don't agree it's good to attempt to wipe out "old" jobs in a quick push.

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While the analyses assume displaced workers will eventually find jobs, liberal-leaning Brookings Institution predicts a net job loss of 0.5 percent over the first 10 years ............conservative Heritage Foundation found that by 2030 net job losses would top 1.1 million, .........Coalition for Affordable American Energy, an industry group, estimates that more than 3 million jobs would be lost by 2030 as a result of the cap-and-trade system. Energy job losers could get windfall - Washington Times
On the bright (or bad) side:
In the Cap & Trade bill - those who lose their job because of the bill's affect on their industry could recieve 70% of their weekly paycheck for 3 years, plus health benefits, plus money to get retraining, plus money for moving expenses.

As the authors point out, the politico's admit Cap & Trade is a job killer by the provisions for displaced workers they wrote into the bill.
Energy job losers could get windfall - Washington Times
Democrats Admit That Their Cap and Trade Bill Is a Job Killer - Peter Roff (usnews.com)

OK, if you believe displaced workers will get what is stated above, raise your hand.

Plus, who is going to pay for all this?
The goverments big money tree is getting pretty barren.
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Old 07-11-2009, 12:19 PM
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[quote=vec101;9699369]Agree, it's good to move toward "new" jobs.
Just don't agree it's good to attempt to wipe out "old" jobs in a quick push.

That's the way it happens, tho. The automobile pretty much wiped out carriage makers. A new technology or paradigm shift makes things change suddenly. Look forward and change with it, or get stuck in the past.
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