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Old 07-06-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Rhode Island (Splash!)
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Guys, here is a link to a YouTube interview about (among other things) how the technology already exists to make normal usable gasoline as we know it today out of hemp oil. The process uses biotechnology (rna re-engineering) and it is fast, i.e. you don't need to wait around for a few million years to end up with some usable fossil fuel.

There are some other examples of what's on the horizon if we can keep the petro-interests from sabotaging these technologies and developments.

This is discussed very early in the video. (Keep viewing if you are interested in immunobiology and/or Biowarfare.)

Here's the link and as always use your head and have fun folks:


YouTube - Interview with Son of A Bio-warfare Scientist
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:50 PM
 
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Are you aware that Henry Ford originally intended to use hemp to power his cars and never intended them to be powered by petrolium? Still, there are far easier and better means of generating power which are on the cutting edge -- electrical, hydrogen, wind vortex, and perhaps zero point energy within a few years. Nikola Tesla actually powered a car using cosmic rays. It ran 70 mph, but his technology was lost...or seized by the government at the time of his death. The problem with getting alternative energy into use, as Keith Tutt in THE SCIENTIST, THE MADMAN, THE THIEF AND THEIR LIGHTBULB points out is that big oil and the U.S. Patent Office keep suppressing alternative energy breakthroughs. That won't change until ALL OF US create such a demand for change that the government has to follow. What we need for energy and environmental change is a movement on the scale of the Civil Rights and Women's movmements of the 60s.
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Old 07-06-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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Now.....will the car exhaust fumes make you light headed and giggly?
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Who knows? If we'd powered our cars with hemp extract, maybe we'd have peace on earth now.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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Very interesting, heady stuff. Unfortunately, I'm not certain that people realize just how enormous fuel demands are on this planet. Too many people and they will not quit procreating.

With increased investment, rising fossil fuel prices and that whole peak oil thing happening, it is still a virtual impossibility that alternative fuels will satisfy more than 20% of human energy demands by the year 2050. The only power source that actually appears viable going forward is nuclear. Maybe there will be a breakthrough with fusion, hydrogen, solar or fuel cell power, but the buzz (and the grant money) is all going towards probable or assured failure technologies like ethanol, wind and, lets face it, hemp oil.

The short-term to mid-range fuel is going to be natural gas. It burns clean and is unfathomably abundant. In the long term we will be forced to go to electric fleets powered by nuclear reactors.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:50 PM
 
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Coal is the most abundant resource in the US, more than 25% of the world's known reserves. China and Russia are numbers 2 and 3 on the list and the US has almost as much as them combined. Current estimates of supply go the century mark and beyond, there will have long been an alternative resource before we run out of coal. I'm betting on geo thermal.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:07 PM
 
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Don't forget that all of the farm-able land is currently in use growing food for the teeming masses. Where are we going to grow the hemp or even extra corn and soybeans to turn into fuel?
The acreage that would be needed to replace even part of the billions and billions of barrels of oil we use...it just boggles the mind. And, not only do tractors run on gas and diesel, most fertilizer comes from oil.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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Coal is the most abundant resource in the US, more than 25% of the world's known reserves. China and Russia are numbers 2 and 3 on the list and the US has almost as much as them combined. Current estimates of supply go the century mark and beyond, there will have long been an alternative resource before we run out of coal. I'm betting on geo thermal.
I think geothermal is very interesting, but the industry in California learned that it is a depletable resource without some rather expensive countermeasures. Geothermal isn't everywhere either. Like oil & gas exploration, you have to have the right kind of rock with the right water content at the right depth. Also, drilling that deep is extremely expensive and without some breakthrough in drilling technology I question the longterm economic viability of geothermal power (unless you are in Iceland).

Question for you: How much of the coal reserves in the U.S. are high grade coals and how much are low grade (like that East Texas lignite)?
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Don't forget that all of the farm-able land is currently in use growing food for the teeming masses. Where are we going to grow the hemp or even extra corn and soybeans to turn into fuel?
The acreage that would be needed to replace even part of the billions and billions of barrels of oil we use...it just boggles the mind.
And, not only do tractors run on gas and diesel, most fertilizer comes from oil.
The great thing about this is that corn that is processed for ethanol is still used for feed. Soybeans that have the oil extruded are still used for feed supplements.

This isn't an either/or situation.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Compression Ignition engines will run on anything that burns and flows through a pipe. A hemp oil fueled Diesel operating on Hemp oil (or waste veggie oil of any kind) would make a great core for a stand alone heat and electric power plant.
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