Why eating organic/natural foods isn't more expensive for us (fertilizer, buying)

[dennis s]

high fructose corn syrups turn off receptors in the brain that tell you that you are full. Thus you keep on eating.....and eating ....and eating.

[dennis s]

Originally Posted by dennis s

high fructose corn syrups turn off receptors in the brain that tell you that you are full. Thus you keep on eating.....and eating ....and eating.

correction: DEXTROSE turns of receptors in the brain that tell you that you are full and to stop eating. ...........


high frutcose corn syrup is plain ol' sugar. Eating sugar tells your pancrease that you have enough energy and it stops releasing insulin. Hence a crash when the sugar gets quickly burned of being that it is a simple carbohydrate.

[BlueWillowPlate]

Good point, Dennis.

I get a dramatic sugar crash every single time I eat French toast, though I always thought this was from the (real) maple syrup, I dunno.

Anyway, I only eat French toast several times a year, so it's worth it.

Are you (not just pinkstring, but everyone who's fuller after eating organic) sure it's not just a mental thing, or did someone actually conduct a double-blind experiment or something?

For me, it's the real deal--but it's not necessarily that I eat something organic, it's just that I eat something that is not made of highly refined, processed ingredients.
I've been eating better for about 10 years now, and while I have not done any double-blind experiments, this is not my imagination.
It's gotten to the point where for breakfast, I actually much *prefer* a bowl of plain yogurt, real fruit, and cereal to cinnamon rolls.
I just feel better and perform better.
Sure I'll do the occasional French toast for brekkie or chocolate cake for dessert. I am not, and never will be, an ascetic.
Too much austere self-denial is boring and pointless.
But for day to day living, nutritious eating simply makes sense and feels good. It's not like I'm suffering! I *enjoy* it.

[linkbr]

For me, it's the real deal--but it's not necessarily that I eat something organic, it's just that I eat something that is not made of highly refined, processed ingredients.

That makes sense completely. I was thinking organic apple vs. non-organic apple, to which I don't think impacts your level of "fullness."

[dennis s]

Originally Posted by linkbr

That makes sense completely. I was thinking organic apple vs. non-organic apple, to which I don't think impacts your level of "fullness."

High levels of heavy metals found in pesticides can build up in your pancreas as well as other organs and tissue.

You renal function WILL be affected by a buildup and cause cravings of sugars and caffiene to make up for the lack of serotonin being produced.


P.S. They spray apples, tomatoes and strawberries more than any other fruit,

[linkbr]

Originally Posted by dennis s

High levels of heavy metals found in pesticides can build up in your pancreas as well ass other organs and tissue.

You renal function WILL be affected by a buildup and cause cravings of sugars and caffiene to make up for the lack of serotonin being produced.


P.S. They spray apples, tomatoes and strawberries more than any other fruit,

Where did you find that info? I've read plenty of studies where there's a difference in nutritional value in certain foods.

[dennis s]

Originally Posted by linkbr

Where did you find that info? I've read plenty of studies where there's a difference in nutritional value in certain foods.

I "found" that info in a text book in school. I don't understand the second statement about nutritional value.

[jlvs2run]

Norman Walker, Max Gerson, and others have found much higher mineral content in organic vegetables grown from rich soils, vs chemically grown foods devoid of that mineral content.

Chemicals are added to depleted pesticide grown foods to try and made up for the lack.

However, as my endeavor is to continue having an enjoyable healthy life, I choose to eat organically grown wholesome food with no pesticides.

[jco]

For me, it's the real deal--but it's not necessarily that I eat something organic, it's just that I eat something that is not made of highly refined, processed ingredients.

I agree cil; I think this is the key. Sometimes I don't buy organic foods because the ingredients aren't bad.

[groove1]

Originally Posted by tyciol

These are very misleading reasons. For one, do you even know what this junk added to increase appetite actually is or how to detect it? Is it impossible for natural foods to increase appetite? Surely not every man-altered food would increase hunger, not all corporations are jackals.

Organic things are usually more expensive because using chemicals in farming is a less costly way of removing pests or bacteria which are present in mass farming (cheaper per-cow than spacious arming).

In a lot of cases when you buy "recycled" toletries you are mislead. It is actually the cardboard centre that is recycled, and the paper itself is not. You have to be careful as corporations love to throw naturalistic terminology to make sales. This is actually a problem with a lot of 'organic' things. Generally the only way to know if something is organic is to grow it yourself.

Many food companies add MSG to food products because it is addictive.

The chemicals in "traditional" farmer is only part of the reason for the higher price of organic foods. Organic food farmers use crop rotation rotating crops to less profitable ones some years in order to keep the same soil healthy. If you grown corn on the same field for 30 years, the soil is depleted of all its minerals.