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Old 10-29-2009, 06:19 PM
 
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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I have to laugh at all the green discussions.

Do you really want to live green? Really? Then live simply, quietly and locally. Conservation offers the first and best strategy of them all, whereas Green strategies are all about trying to minimize the impact of being a consumerist glutton.

Such hypocrisy.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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I have to laugh at all the green discussions.

Do you really want to live green? Really? Then live simply, quietly and locally. Conservation offers the first and best strategy of them all, whereas Green strategies are all about trying to minimize the impact of being a consumerist glutton.

...and pee outdoors any time and anywhere possible!
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Buy! Buy! Buy!

Consume! Consume! Consume!

You can not consume you way to being 'green'.

Even if this is a recycled product, they had to melt crushed cars and stuff. They had to smelt it, to separate the aluminum. They had to roll it, etc.

Gobs of energy was used to 'recycle' and to make this foil.

It was transported across the world and across the nation to get it into your store; which burned petroleum and shredded rubber tires along the way.

It would be far 'greener' to simply not use aluminum foil.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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Buy! Buy! Buy!

Consume! Consume! Consume!

You can not consume you way to being 'green'.

Even if this is a recycled product, they had to melt crushed cars and stuff. They had to smelt it, to separate the aluminum. They had to roll it, etc.

Gobs of energy was used to 'recycle' and to make this foil.

It was transported across the world and across the nation to get it into your store; which burned petroleum and shredded rubber tires along the way.

It would be far 'greener' to simply not use aluminum foil.
Number one I rarely use aluminum foil and two when I have to why not use one that is recycled since so many buy buy buy. Make sense?

Thanksgiving is right around the table and most do use it on this day along with Christmas so why not buy what is best.

Every little bit helps.

Most start out with one then add another then another ect ect ect.
A little green is better then no green.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Few things are 'green' if you are buying manufactured stuff.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:29 PM
 
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A few pointers for helping the ecosystem and your budget...
1. Take only one shower a week
2. Do laundry no more than one load a month. This necessitates wearing your clothes until they are good and dirty.
3. Put your dishes in the fridge after eating instead of washing. The fridge will kill any germs and the remains will mix in well with the next day meal, lessening the need for seasoning. Then wash it maybe once a week
4. Reuse your dental floss
5. Save the plastic bags from grocery stores and use for trash liners
6. Flush the toilet only when necessary.
7. Go to as many communion services per weekend as possible. After a while they add up to a nice meal, meaning you can skip lunch.

BTW, I am available as a dinner guest to your home and love entertaining at mine as well.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Boise
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I have to laugh at all the green discussions.

Do you really want to live green? Really? Then live simply, quietly and locally. Conservation offers the first and best strategy of them all, whereas Green strategies are all about trying to minimize the impact of being a consumerist glutton.

Such hypocrisy.
I think you hit the nail, Sand. If we really want to be green, we have to first kick our addiction to consumption. But that's a sacred cow. It's kind of like devil worship to even talk about consuming less. That would require a whole lot of the "C" word (that being change) in all of our lifestyles. And we wouldn't dare compromise the little bubble of cheap convenience that we were all baptized in.
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