|

11-03-2009, 07:47 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
107 posts, read 49,165 times
Reputation: 52
|
|
Meat's not Green
|
|

11-03-2009, 07:57 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Way South, ME
1,615 posts, read 688,080 times
Reputation: 984
|
|
|
I'm really tired of this vegetarian mandate drivel. I would like to see how they propose to feed the population of northern hemisphere tier without a massive carbon footprint of petroleum based freight, pesticides, packaging, and chemicals.
|
|

11-03-2009, 08:09 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradenton, Florida
13,505 posts, read 4,544,882 times
Reputation: 4340
|
|
|
If your meat's green, there's something wrong with it--and you probably shouldn't eat it. Not on a boat, not with a goat. I do not like green eggs or ham.
|
|

11-03-2009, 08:12 AM
|
|
Real Estate Agent
Status:
"Looking forward to 2010!"
(set 9 days ago)
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Texas
7,739 posts, read 4,564,292 times
Reputation: 2663
|
|
|
Well, she lost me with the first mention of the word "PETA". Given that the founder and head of PETA has proudly acknowledged, in print, that truth is a tiny part of their "recipe" for anything they say, with shock value being a whopping 80%, and given my personal experiences trying to get anything out of them other than, "But we say so, that IS our documentation! And how much do you want to donate?", anyone who puts any credence in them has lost credibility with me from the get-go.
What I really, really, REALLY wish is that folks who want to be vegetarian would be so, and that they would have the confidence in their decisions to leave it at that and not have to try to get everyone else to jump on their bandwagon in order to shore up their belief that they're doing the right thing. It's not one whit different than proselytizing for a particular brand of religion, in my book - the impulse in the person doing the proselytizing is the same.
Just think: if we all become vegetarian, we will have to run the wildlife off the arable land so that we can feed everyone. We'll have to deforest more than we already are in order to grow the crops necessary to provide nutrition for everyone (and for a lot of us, myself included, a vegetarian diet, even a carefully balanced one, is NOT healthy, so I guess we'll just be out of luck).
Please. Food should not be political. Food should be nourishing, it should be delightful, it should be one of life's pleasures, not a stick with which to bludgeon people over the head with due to personal control issues.
Is factory farming a blight on the planet? Yes. Does it follow that eating meat is? Nope, it doesn't - there are humane ways to raise animals for meat (heck, mine get back rubs and beer!) and humane ways to slaughter them (if for no other reason than that a frightened animal taints the flavor of the meat, if you didn't care about the animal itself). Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater just because factory farming is a problem.
|
|

11-03-2009, 08:25 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
107 posts, read 49,165 times
Reputation: 52
|
|
"If a person can survive and be perfectly healthy in our current age while living on a meat-free diet, then vegetarianism no longer becomes a personal choice – it becomes a matter of human responsibility, for himself and for those inhabiting his planet."
“There is no such thing as a meat-eating environmentalist.” « The Progressive Prophet
|
|

11-03-2009, 08:30 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
385 posts, read 326,184 times
Reputation: 66
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrackly
I'm really tired of this vegetarian mandate drivel. I would like to see how they propose to feed the population of northern hemisphere tier without a massive carbon footprint of petroleum based freight, pesticides, packaging, and chemicals.
|

|
|

11-03-2009, 09:33 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Vt but soon to be AK
7,429 posts, read 2,984,216 times
Reputation: 1816
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mg420
|
I do believe my wild game is quite "green."
|
|

11-03-2009, 09:38 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bradenton, Florida
13,505 posts, read 4,544,882 times
Reputation: 4340
|
|
|
Again, if we didn't farm them, then their populations would die off fairly quickly, since there's not enough land left for them to graze on naturally. The farmer not only provides food, but shelter and protection from predators.
|
|

11-03-2009, 09:49 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
107 posts, read 49,165 times
Reputation: 52
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
I do believe my wild game is quite "green."
|
hunting is a different issue (but no less cruel & unnecessary imo). this article is speaking to the issue of factory farming from which the overwhelming majority of meat comes.
|
|

11-03-2009, 09:53 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
107 posts, read 49,165 times
Reputation: 52
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TKramar
Again, if we didn't farm them, then their populations would die off fairly quickly, since there's not enough land left for them to graze on naturally. The farmer not only provides food, but shelter and protection from predators.
|
do you really think that farmers are doing animals a favor by raising them for slaughter?
Farm Sanctuary | Watkins Glen, NY
|
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
|
|