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Old 11-17-2009, 11:40 AM
 
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LONDON (AP) - A British heritage charity is encouraging employees to help the environment by eschewing indoor toilets and relieving themselves outdoors. The experiment applies to male gardening staff at Wimpole Hall, a stately home about 50 miles (80 kilometers) north of London.

British gardeners told: go green, pee outdoors

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Old 11-17-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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How is this green?

In the unlikely event this has some impact, it would be a negative impact to local water quality.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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How is this green?

In the unlikely event this has some impact, it would be a negative impact to local water quality.
Walking over and peeing by a bush is not going to affect local water quality in any way.

While I don't have any particular desire to see some guy standing out in public peeing, his doing so is no different than all the animals that do the exact same thing.

And what's more, his peeing outside means that in that particular instance, he won't be flushing a toilet or urinal, and thus won't be wasting 1.6 gallons of water.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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Walking over and peeing by a bush is not going to affect local water quality in any way.
Nor will using 1.6 gallons of tap water.

One individual's choices are beside the point. The acts of many individuals can have an impact. Look at how raw sewage has impacted the Ganges.

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While I don't have any particular desire to see some guy standing out in public peeing, his doing so is no different than all the animals that do the exact same thing.
It is fashionable to assume that if it is something natural that animals do, then that must make it environmentally friendly. Yet, this is not reality.

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And what's more, his peeing outside means that in that particular instance, he won't be flushing a toilet or urinal, and thus won't be wasting 1.6 gallons of water.
It all depends on what you value more - the energy spent on water treatment, or surface water quality.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Nor will using 1.6 gallons of tap water.

One individual's choices are beside the point. The acts of many individuals can have an impact. Look at how raw sewage has impacted the Ganges.


It is fashionable to assume that if it is something natural that animals do, then that must make it environmentally friendly. Yet, this is not reality.

It all depends on what you value more - the energy spent on water treatment, or surface water quality.
I'm not sure whether or not I should take this as a joke, so I'll assume you're serious.

It's simple: If a million people peed outside in the garden, every day, you'd have no change in the quality or water in rivers. You'd also save 1.6 million gallons of water that would otherwise be flushed down the toilet.

And no, peeing outside in the garden is a quantum leap apart from peeing in the Ganges.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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Walking over and peeing by a bush is not going to affect local water quality in any way.

While I don't have any particular desire to see some guy standing out in public peeing, his doing so is no different than all the animals that do the exact same thing.

And what's more, his peeing outside means that in that particular instance, he won't be flushing a toilet or urinal, and thus won't be wasting 1.6 gallons of water.
It's freaking England! The land where it never stops raining! And they are worried about how much water they flush in urinals so much that they want people to **** outside ?!
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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It's freaking England! The land where it never stops raining! And they are worried about how much water they flush in urinals so much that they want people to **** outside ?!
Ummm... You are aware, aren't you, that water that is piped into homes and business doesn't just run in off the roof, right? All the water is first processed/purified, then tested, then piped into homes. They don't just stick a big hose in the river to suck water up into the water tower. Then, after the water is flushed down the drain, it goes to wastewater treatment plants.

None of this "just happens." It requires incredible amounts of infrastructure capital, and a great deal of energy. So why not save some municipal water, whenever possible?


That said, I'm not thinking this is some big "save the planet" worthy thing. On the other hand, why not save the water by peeing outside?
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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It's simple: If a million people peed outside in the garden, every day, you'd have no change in the quality or water in rivers.
I definitely dispute that. It does not take much fecal coliform bacteria to ruin surface water.

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And no, peeing outside in the garden is a quantum leap apart from peeing in the Ganges.
Likewise, peeing outside in the garden is a quantum leap apart from 1,000,000 people peeing outside in their gardens.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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Ummm... You are aware, aren't you, that water that is piped into homes and business doesn't just run in off the roof, right? All the water is first processed/purified, then tested, then piped into homes. They don't just stick a big hose in the river to suck water up into the water tower. Then, after the water is flushed down the drain, it goes to wastewater treatment plants.

None of this "just happens." It requires incredible amounts of infrastructure capital, and a great deal of energy. So why not save some municipal water, whenever possible?


That said, I'm not thinking this is some big "save the planet" worthy thing. On the other hand, why not save the water by peeing outside?
I live in a place where the average yearly rainfall is 8-12 inches. No one here complains about the infrastructue, the problem is getting water into it in the first place.

If they really wanted to make a difference, they would collect rainwater in a cistern and pipe it to the urinals.

But peeing in wide open can be fun, I guess. I remember when my son and I waited 2 hours in line to get into the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland when he was 4 years old. Just before it was our turn to go in, he had to go, and luckily there was a planter right next to us. I don't think my wife has ever been so embarrased in her life. The whole line was laughing and my son thought he was great for doing it.

On second thought... who am I to deny the English such urinary delights? Pee away, my fellow tea chugging chaps.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:40 PM
 
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I definitely dispute that. It does not take much fecal coliform bacteria to ruin surface water.
Ummmm... You're aware that fecal coliform - and also E Coli - are not carried in urine, right?
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