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Old 01-05-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Mother Nature certainly has a sense of humor:

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Blizzard Dumps Snow on Copenhagen as Leaders Battle Warming

World leaders flying into Copenhagen today to discuss a solution to global warming will first face freezing weather as a blizzard dumped 10 centimeters (4 inches) of snow on the Danish capital overnight.
..... Denmark has a maritime climate ....hasn’t had a white Christmas for 14 years, ... and only had seven last century. Temperatures today fell as low as minus 4 Celsius (25 Fahrenheit). Blizzard Dumps Snow on Copenhagen as Leaders Battle Warming - Bloomberg.com#

 
Old 01-05-2010, 05:29 PM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Mother Nature certainly has a sense of humor:
I bet they had a TERRIBLE time digging out those 1200 Limos & keeping the 140 private jets flight ready.

Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges - Telegraph
 
Old 01-05-2010, 11:16 PM
 
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Mother Nature certainly has a sense of humor:
Haha. The gods showed their wrath.
 
Old 01-07-2010, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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happy new years to y'all, here's a perspective which seems to often go unnoticed by the media:

Publishing Archaeology: Science, Archaeology, and Public Debate (by Gary M. Feinman)

...Rather, the crux of the current political acrimony is over the proposed role that humans play and potentially have had over many centuries in environmental and climatic shifts.


In this regard, the record painstakingly documented by archaeologists who study the millennial history of human material presence in environments across the globe is clear and dramatic. The footprint of our species on the earth has been sustained and significant, often, although not always, effecting episodes of degradation, drought, desertification, and extinction. Contextualized with archaeology’s long-term record of human impacts on environments, it would be difficult to deny that recent industrial economies - with coincident demographic growth and pollution - would not also have the potential, even the probability, to alter the earth’s lands, waters, and atmosphere.
 
Old 01-08-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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happy new years to y'all, here's a perspective which seems to often go unnoticed by the media:

Publishing Archaeology: Science, Archaeology, and Public Debate (by Gary M. Feinman)

...Rather, the crux of the current political acrimony is over the proposed role that humans play and potentially have had over many centuries in environmental and climatic shifts.


In this regard, the record painstakingly documented by archaeologists who study the millennial history of human material presence in environments across the globe is clear and dramatic. The footprint of our species on the earth has been sustained and significant, often, although not always, effecting episodes of degradation, drought, desertification, and extinction. Contextualized with archaeology’s long-term record of human impacts on environments, it would be difficult to deny that recent industrial economies - with coincident demographic growth and pollution - would not also have the potential, even the probability, to alter the earth’s lands, waters, and atmosphere.

That is a rather obvious and amateur fallacy. There is nothing scientific about that speculation. It fails the test because it attempts to simply connect isolated incidents to a global effect. It is a violation of the correlation does not prove causation clause. I say it is amateur because this basic fact is the core of any entry level academic field in science. This fallacy is exactly why the scientific method exists.

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Old 05-14-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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Here's a sample of the Republican compilation of "top climate scientists" who disagree. Looks more like someone pulled names out of a telephone book.
  • Robert Durrenberger -- Actually a geography professor with no published work on climate change.
  • David Wojick -- journalist with no scientific work in the area of climate change.
  • Syun-Ichi Akasofu -- Does not assert that anthropogenic warming is not occurring.
  • Douglas V. Hoyt -- legitimate climate scientist who believes solar irradiance is the prime factor in warming.
  • Howard Hayden -- professor emeritus at U of CT with no scientific work in the area of climate change.
hmm.
guess you may be a part od CRIME INC.
So, tell me what qualifications for the global warming hoax Van Jones, Mairice Strong, George Soros, Al Gore ( guess it pais well for him- after all he added another 9million$$$ mansion to his collection), Roberts, and the rest of the criminals....have. And what does Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae exactly doing in cap and trade brew??? Thought they are only dealing with mortgages, 96% of them to be exact.....they defaulted on interest payments and another 10 bullion $$ had beeen given them...again...looks like they have an OPEN credit on bailouts...
so, stop posting ctrap ( it is very obvious you are working with current administration- or should I say doing their dirty job) to divert attention to mislead....we all much aware what is the end result of their doing!!!!
 
Old 05-18-2010, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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That is a rather obvious and amateur fallacy. There is nothing scientific about that speculation. It fails the test because it attempts to simply connect isolated incidents to a global effect. It is a violation of the correlation does not prove causation clause. I say it is amateur because this basic fact is the core of any entry level academic field in science. This fallacy is exactly why the scientific method exists.
that's a peer-reviewed (ie, by scientific professionals) publication.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 08:33 AM
 
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Global Warming needs no concensus. It is an empirical fact. We know the rate at which Carbon Dioxide is absorbed by the ocean and by plant life.... we also know the rate at which Carbon Dioxide is emitted and how much is emmitted by fossil fuels. It comes down to the increase in mass in the atmosphere, mass that absorbs light energy and retains it as heat. We are releasing an unprecedented amount of CO2, unprecedented in HUMAN history but not in Earths history. Wake up, and if you don't care about our future as a species and you are living for yourself in the present, leave the debate alone, it is not for the ignorant. Ignorance is no excuse.
 
Old 05-18-2010, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Wrone, I'm afraid that we have people here who are determined to spread disinformation as they perceive themselves to have some larger fiscal self-interest.

You could find people in the asbestos and tobacco industry pretty much making the same arguments once upon a time, but the science can't be ignored.
 
Old 05-24-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I do not believe in Global Warming at all. We only have data back to a certain time, who is to say that trillions and trillions of years ago the Earth didn't go through the changes of today???

anyway, Earth is doing it's thing, WE are the ones that are in the way.
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