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Old 05-28-2010, 11:10 AM
 
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You speak like a young warrior who has not lived long enough to know the Wisdom of the Womon's Council, you have a lot to learn and a true Native American would never speak in such a manner, it is disrespectful, not only to yourself, but to your people. Arguing among ourselves accomplish nothing, we as individuals must work together to protect our environment, it is only the greed of the big corporations that has caused such a tragedy and it will take the people(of all ethnic backgrounds) of Louisiana and the surrounding areas to protect the wetlands and all the waters of Louisiana.

Some very wise words were passed down to me and they go like this; When one sits in the Hoop of the People, one must be responsible because all of creation is related,and the hurt of one is the hurt of all, and the honor of one is the honor of all, and whatever we do affects everything in the universe.
Thank you. There are plenty of good, decent, white people, and there are plenty of mean, vicious indians, and there is plenty of every sort in every race; it has nothing to do with race. It's just like Dr. King said: we need to evaluate people on their characters. I wonder if we're ever really going to learn this, or not.

 
Old 05-28-2010, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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This is a load of crap.

BP could have saved the rig and had the drillstem intact at the surface but the Coast Guard would not allow any further action. Stay back, let it burn.

BP also had to start drilling the relief well without a permit (the relief well is basically the only way to permanently plug the blow-out). The daily fine for an un-permitted well is something like $500,000 per day. It couldn't wait and the Federal regulatory body was unable to act - so BP decided to proceed without the permit and pay the fines. Does paying $3.5 MM per week in administrative fines sound like the action of a lax operator? You're stupid if you think that BP was not pouring every available resource into getting the well under control from the get.

We should all be thanking the powers that be that this just so happened to be a well operated by a company with the resources to manage a problem of this magnitude. What if this was a little independent that just declared bankruptcy and walked away? You think the Federal Government has the experience or the know-how to fix a problem like this? (The answer is NO)

This is an enormous disaster that will take decades to repair, but the gulf will heal. Google up the "Ixtapa Blowout" of 1979. That was much, much worse and the government run Pemex basically shrugged off any cleanup efforts. "Sorry, we'll be more careful in the future. Enjoy." Interestingly, a hurricane cleaned up the Texas coast after that debacle much more efficiently than any human efforts.



Incidentally, BP would be pretty stupid not to have salvage of the well in mind but no one on earth is crazy enough not to have control of the well as priority one.



You can take your personal attacks and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Saying someone is full of crap or that they are stupid just shows how immature and childish you are.

Like I said, I know people in the business and what they are saying is completely different then what you're saying.


busta
 
Old 05-28-2010, 04:08 PM
 
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You can take your personal attacks and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Saying someone is full of crap or that they are stupid just shows how immature and childish you are.

Like I said, I know people in the business and what they are saying is completely different then what you're saying.


busta
This is really vulgar and unnecessary.
 
Old 05-28-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Nah...I think they're trying to figure out how to build a casino on top of all that muck in the gulf and sell cigarettes at half-price.
 
Old 05-29-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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This is really vulgar and unnecessary.

Maybe so but jimbo should not say people are full of crap or that they are stupid for not thinking like him, only shows what an idiot he is.

And I love where he says things that are not true, (BP could have saved the rig and had the drillstem intact at the surface but the Coast Guard would not allow any further action. Stay back, let it burn.)


Oil spill hearings: Rig had no power to fight fire after engines oversped | NOLA.com

BP could not save the well as he stated because the pumps and generators would not work.

And BP only cares about themselves and not us. Just look at yesterdays staging of workers by BP when Obama was here. Yep looks like they really care.

BP buses cleanup crews to Grand Isle for Obama's visit, councilman says | NOLA.com


busta
 
Old 05-29-2010, 12:14 PM
 
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The BOOK we use to learn of the Great spirit says that greed and corruption of men will destroy the earth and the animals we have been given the job to care for. It is sad that a few can destroy what belongs to all of us. Even though I accentuated my grammar to emphasize the way a native american may think the concern is real. I am only part NA. I wish I was a full blood but still the NA I do have in my veins lets me see things that pure white men have no ability to see. I respect the true wisdom of our native americans...
 
Old 05-29-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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The BOOK we use to learn of the Great spirit says that greed and corruption of men will destroy the earth and the animals we have been given the job to care for. It is sad that a few can destroy what belongs to all of us. Even though I accentuated my grammar to emphasize the way a native american may think the concern is real. I am only part NA. I wish I was a full blood but still the NA I do have in my veins lets me see things that pure white men have no ability to see. I respect the true wisdom of our native americans...

A few words of wisdom to you Nativechief from this ancient warrior and now Elder of his people.
Conversation was never begun at once, nor in a hurried manner. No one was quick with a question, no matter how important, and no one was pressed for an answer. A pause giving time for thought was a truly courteous way of beginning and conducting a conversation. Silence was meaningful with the Native American, and his granting a space of silence to the speechmaker and his own moment of silence before talking was done in the practice of true politeness and regard for the rule that, "thought comes before speech." osay

And so to stay on subject, it is the greed of the corporations that has caused this unnecessary catastrophe in the Gulf waters and it is the innocent people and animals that are going to pay the price in so many different ways. My heart is heavy for what is happening because this could have been completely avoided had pride and greed not clouded the minds of those in charge.
 
Old 05-29-2010, 04:08 PM
 
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Default OT: "empath"

This is a bit off topic, but I don't want to put it anywhere else for fear of it not getting to the right person. Someone (I can't determine who) sent me a rep and said I was an empath. I wanted to thank them for that (explains my two visions), and also tell them that their remark sent me into a trail of looking up what it meant, buying a couple of books on it, buying some yarrow flower essence, and getting Celestine Prophecy on my Kindle.

Initially, I thought that it really couldn't be true, because I'm not really all that nice a person, all the time. I have a strong intolerance for stupidity (while being stupid myself, quite frequently) and tend to abandon people pretty easily if they are driving me crazy by being slow-witted. It is not a good personal characteristic, and of course leaves me lonely and isolated.

Reading the googled pages on empaths, however, rang true and does explain why my mother always said I was "too sensitive" and a host of other issues, including the odd visions. Being an empath apparently does not also include being a "good person," whatever that is, and so at least I have some positive direction, which I needed.

I read Celestine Prophecy years ago, but was dis-illusioned, thinking it was meant to be a true story, when it is now admittedly a work of fiction, with insights hung into the narrative, so designed to enlighten readers about there own lives.

I think (back to the subject of the oil spill) that it is probably true, as Buddhists I believe claim, that everything is as it should be. Perhaps the lessons learned by this disaster, the sufferings of the people and the poor animals, will be lessons for the men and women of the future. Surely this is so.
 
Old 05-29-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: The end of the road Alaska
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This thread makes as much sense as a "redhead's perspective on the oil spill" or a "blue-eyed blonde's perspective on the oil spill", or how about "An African American's perspective on the oil spill. We ALL are affected and sickened by this disaster!
 
Old 05-29-2010, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Queensland
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Thank you for an amusing thread And I don't mean that the oil spill is amusing.

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This thread makes as much sense as a "redhead's perspective on the oil spill" or a "blue-eyed blonde's perspective on the oil spill", or how about "An African American's perspective on the oil spill. We ALL are affected and sickened by this disaster!
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