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Old 02-16-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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I am thinking about moving to Winston area but don't know which school system is better. Can anyone advise?
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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There's really no simple answer to your question. The two systems are very different in size and available resources, and of course individual schools (and teachers within those schools) vary. You can get a great education in either system, and you can also find bad teachers and principals in both.

Forsyth has the advantage of being much larger, so there are much greater opportunities across the system. The Career Center offers a wide array of advanced placement and technical classes that typically aren't offered at individual high schools, like Chinese and German languages, AP statistics and environmental science, or technical career path classes like aviation technology and health sciences. Forsyth also has a number of magnet school programs in areas like the arts and technology. There are also comparatively more resources available for special needs kids, both the academically gifted and those with mental or physical limitations.

Sorry, I have no experience with Davidson Co. schools so I can't help much there, other than to say I've known a number of people with kids in that system and I've never heard of any major problems.
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Old 02-17-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Take a look at www.greatschools.org. Based on the statistic availables on that site, Davidson is clearly a better system than Forsyth. However, just as arbyunc said, you really have to look at each individual school because each system has good ones and bad ones.
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Old 02-17-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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cwolfe, I looked at the site you linked and I can't see that Davidson Co. is "clearly better". Do you have a link to a specific page or measure? Regardless, I think this is really the wrong approach to evaluating the two areas. Even if Davidson is clearly better as you claim, take a look at the individual rankings for North Davidson vs. West Forsyth high schools. West is clearly better by their measure (9 vs. 7), but that's based only on test scores. There is so much more to a high school (or any school) than test scores.

Bottom line is that your kids will be attending individual schools, so you should focus more on them rather than the overall system. Forsyth Co. has some of the best schools in the state, and they also have some that aren't as good.
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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So last year when we were considering where to move to, I took the time to pull all of the individual school data for each of the four Triad counties we were considering. I took that data into Excel and did a whole bunch of analysis, here's a couple bits. Again, based on last year's data:

[SIZE=2]Average of Great Schools Ratings[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Level[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]County[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Elementary[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Middle[/SIZE][SIZE=2]High[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Davidson[/SIZE][SIZE=2]6.44[/SIZE][SIZE=2]6.38[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.78[/SIZE][SIZE=2]6.26[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Randolph[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.94[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.71[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.80[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.86[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Guilford[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.11[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.21[/SIZE][SIZE=2]4.61[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.02[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Forsyth[/SIZE][SIZE=2]4.86[/SIZE][SIZE=2]4.30[/SIZE][SIZE=2]3.58[/SIZE][SIZE=2]4.43[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.30[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.13[/SIZE][SIZE=2]4.56[/SIZE][SIZE=2]5.09[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Avg. Class Size[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Level[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]County[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Elementary[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Middle[/SIZE][SIZE=2]High[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Forsyth[/SIZE][SIZE=2]15.9[/SIZE][SIZE=2]20.0[/SIZE][SIZE=2]15.9[/SIZE][SIZE=2]16.9[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Guilford[/SIZE][SIZE=2]18.4[/SIZE][SIZE=2]21.3[/SIZE][SIZE=2]13.3[/SIZE][SIZE=2]17.8[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Randolph[/SIZE][SIZE=2]20.2[/SIZE][SIZE=2]21.7[/SIZE][SIZE=2]18.2[/SIZE][SIZE=2]20.2[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Davidson[/SIZE][SIZE=2]20.3[/SIZE][SIZE=2]21.4[/SIZE][SIZE=2]19.3[/SIZE][SIZE=2]20.3[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]18.2[/SIZE][SIZE=2]20.9[/SIZE][SIZE=2]15.4[/SIZE][SIZE=2]18.1[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Avg Passing% EOG math[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Level[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]County[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Elementary[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Middle[/SIZE][SIZE=2]High[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Davidson[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.81[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.63[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.66[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.73[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Randolph[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.76[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.64[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.69[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.72[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Guilford[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.70[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.56[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.60[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.64[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Forsyth[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.68[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.54[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.50[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.61[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.71[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.57[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.59[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.65[/SIZE]
This one was End of Grade 3 math in Elementary; EOG 8 Math in Middle; EOC Algebra in High

[SIZE=2]Avg passing% EOG reading[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Level[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]County[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Elementary[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Middle[/SIZE][SIZE=2]High[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Davidson[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.61[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.53[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.76[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.63[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Randolph[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.55[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.53[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.72[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.57[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Guilford[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.49[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.44[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.70[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.52[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Forsyth[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.48[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.43[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.62[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.50[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.51[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.45[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.68[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.53[/SIZE]
This is EOG 3 reading for Elementary; EOG 8 reading for Middle; EOC English in High

Personally, I think this last one is very telling. It is the average % of Economically disadvantaged students in the school:

[SIZE=2]Average of Econ. Disadvantaged[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Level[/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]County[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Elementary[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Middle[/SIZE][SIZE=2]High[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Davidson[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.34[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.21[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.21[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.28[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Randolph[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.49[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.43[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.31[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.45[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Guilford[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.63[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.56[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.40[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.56[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Forsyth[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.62[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.60[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.46[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.58[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Grand Total[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.57[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.51[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.38[/SIZE][SIZE=2]0.51[/SIZE]

Anyways, I hope this is helpful, but I do have data to support my opinion that Davidson County schools are clearly better (in general) than Forsyth.
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: High Point
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oh no, my nice little data cubes from Excel copied and pasted cleanly into the post editing screen, but look horrible now. Any techies out there that know how to make my post readable?
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:23 AM
 
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cwolfe, I can't make much sense of what you posted, but it appears that you've taken an average across each school system and compared the results, right? I could see how Davidson might compare favorably in across-the-board averages, as Forsyth has a much larger population of lower-performing kids. But as I said earlier, you really need to look at individual schools to make meaningful comparisons. If you took the best schools in Forsyth and compared them to the best in Davidson, I think the Forsyth schools would be considered better by most measures.

But I don't mean to send the wrong message here--there's nothing wrong (that I know of) with Davidson Co. schools at all. The question is how to compare the two systems in a meaningful way, and IMO averages don't tell you much about the individual schools one may be considering.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: High Point
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Yes, you are absolutely right, when I look at the data for the individual schools, Forsyth tends to have a few schools in the top at each grade level. But, when I look at the botom of the list there are far more low performing schools in Forsyth county which drastically effects the overall average.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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Now in 2011 do you think both districts are about equal. Looking to move to that area next year and the schools are a big factor. In addition to the schools are they both equally safe areas to live in?
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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I would not focus so much on school disticts, as actual schools? Some schools are in a so called bad area yet have outstanding results? Hanes manget is one, there are also many really great schools in area's that people think are good area's.

Pretty much all of W-S is a safe area if you ask me, coming from LaLa land Los Angeles.
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