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Old 12-16-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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^ QC, I'm talking about the relative size of the metro areas. Driving from Pineville to Mooresville or Concord is roughly the same as driving from one end of the Triad to the other. In fact it would probably take you longer in Charlotte.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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^ QC, I'm talking about the relative size of the metro areas. Driving from Pineville to Mooresville or Concord is roughly the same as driving from one end of the Triad to the other. In fact it would probably take you longer in Charlotte.
Quite true!
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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Ok...so, WFUBaptist Medical Center has taken some criticism recently, as in the past, which isn't new since it is in a league of it's own being the only nationally recognised medical center in the Triad. On a consistent basis it is listed in multiple categories in the rankings of US News & World Reports "Best Hospitals." Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center has set itself apart above and beyond in research and critical care, cancer, and other areas. When a person is critically injured in northwest NC from the Tennessee line, southwest VA, to the Triad including Salisbury or Statesville, they are not airlifted to Moses Cone or Wesley whatever hospitals, but to Wake Forest Baptist. It is the only level one trauma center in the region. Enough said.

On the skyline issue, you certainly can prefer one above the other. Skylines are subjective to me sort of like paintings are by Monet or Warhol, you either like them or can appreciate them or not. One skyline being 'better' or 'taller' or the 'best' between such cities as similar as Winston-Salem and Greensboro is ridiculous. The skylines are not that extensive to begin with. And there is what?.....a difference in population between the two of say 30,000 or so, and I'd dare to say that the majority of that difference is not in permanent residents but college students included, on the part of Greensboro's count.

I will have to add on the skyline issue, since architecture is in my professional arena, several differences between the two cities.

1) If you google Skyscraperpage.com, go to North Carolina, you will clearly see a big difference when you click on Winston-Salem and Greensboro. Of all the cities in the United States, Winston-Salem is listed #43, between Orlando, FL and Phoenix, in the number of skyscrapers/highrises, mid-rise and other buildings (91) to Greensboro's #158, with 18 buildings listed. Even Asheville has more buildings (28) than Greensboro. This includes buildings constructed, under construction, proposed, on hold, destroyed, cancelled or envisioned. Up until 1990, Greensboro's tallest building was a Holiday Inn at Four Seasons Mall (now Sheraton I believe), which is not even downtown.

2) Checking out my copy of A Guide to the Historic Architecture of Piedmont North Carolina by Catherine Bishir, which by the way includes architecture and information up to around 2002, I see another big difference.
Sure Greensboro had one of the first skyscrapers in the Lincoln National Building designed by Charles Hartmann in 1923. It was surpassed four years later as North Carolina's tallest by the Nissen Building in Winston-Salem, and in 1928 by the R J Reynolds Building designed by Shreve & Lamb of New York. The Reynolds Building was and continues to be recognised as the prototype for the Empire State Building, and I would venture to add that the majority of people would know who Shreve & Lamb are for this distinct connection over Charles Hartmann.

Winston had more buildings designed by prominent architects than any other North Carolina city in the early twentieth century. This is not my opinion, but a fact written and researched by the above author. Shreve & Lamb would be joined by W L Stoddard, Stanhope, Johnson & Brannon, Northup & O'Brien, and Ralph Adams Cram. If Greensboro is the better or more prominent, where are the buildings designed by nationally and internationally known architects? It doesn't, the last time I looked, have two buildings by Argentine-born Cesar Pelli (Wachovia Center, 1995) and Worrell Center @ WFU, or one under construction by Robert A M Stern of New York.

There are probably more residences in Greensboro and High Point neighborhoods alone by Winston-Salem architects during the early 20th cen. than there are in Winston itself. Northup & O'Brien and Luther Lashmit are two examples that come to mind from the books I have on local architecture. Philadelphia architect Charles Barton Keen has so much work in North Carolina after he designed Reynolda, he had to open an office in Winston-Salem and hire other architects to handle other projects in town and beyond from Roaring Gap to Charlotte....Greensboro included.
I could go on about Winston-Salem's superiority in North Carolina architecture over the years....not to even mention Old Salem's authentic 18th cen. buildings, but I hate to bore forum readers with info they probably already know.
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:12 AM
 
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Few minor points on the architecture topic. Granted it's a matter of personal taste and preferences.

Argentine-born Cesar Pelli? Wachovia Center?

You have to wonder what Wachovia’s board of directors told Mr. Pelli when they commissioned him:

"We want a headquarters that says we’re excited about or customers and take pleasure in servicing them!

“Wachovia is a vertical organization which continues to expand, while maintaining a firm sense of integrity. How would you suggest this, architecturally?”

-or-

“Could you make it look like a giant dong? That would be awesome!”

I suppose Andrew Jackson Davis isn't very famous. Seems he was only one of three who founded the American Institute of Architects?

If I remember correctly Blandwood is the first constructed sample of Italianate Villa in the United States. It's also the only example of a unique architectural innovation. Sliding windows and shutters from the Antebellum period.

I wonder where it's located and who lived there?

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Old 12-17-2011, 07:56 AM
 
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^ tegota, I worked at Wachovia during the time the building was designed and built. Believe me, there were plenty of jokes to go around. We were all baffled that during the process apparently no one ever said "Hey, you know, this thing looks like a giant ****", but I guess there were too many "yes men" at the top that no one had the balls to say it (pun intended). One of my co-workers had a classic--he said they should install one of those outside-the-building elevators, shaped like a hand.
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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I've never been able to see the ***** or penis in Pelli's design like most people.....LOL...but rather a giant deodorant stick, since we're now analyzing the architect's thought process or what the client sees in the final product. But what we see in the final product is about as subjective, again, as the Monet or Warhol painting.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:23 PM
 
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I've never been able to see the ***** or penis in Pelli's design like most people.....LOL...but rather a giant deodorant stick, since we're now analyzing the architect's thought process or what the client sees in the final product. But what we see in the final product is about as subjective, again, as the Monet or Warhol painting.
Have you seen it from overhead? It has a hole in the tip!
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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My town can beat up your town.
Let's beat our chests and rape some women.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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My town can beat up your town.
Let's beat our chests and rape some women.
Here! Here! I'll drink to that!
This certainly turned into a major pissing contest.
In all sincerity it is nice to see people be passionate about where they live. We don't get the perk of being a one city metro like Charlotte & Raleigh but that spirited competition between WS & GSO can be channeled in a positive way that benefits all.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Here! Here! I'll drink to that!
This certainly turned into a major pissing contest.
In all sincerity it is nice to see people be passionate about where they live. We don't get the perk of being a one city metro like Charlotte & Raleigh but that spirited competition between WS & GSO can be channeled in a positive way that benefits all.
Raleigh is a 3 city metro(in reality).
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