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Old 01-11-2013, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Shockingly it wasn't, when GR opened shop in Gboro it had departments with real people. There was a floral department where arrangements were made or you could have one made. Custom picture framing, a real customer service counter, and even a snack bar.
What happened to the place is beyond me, GR won't even spend the money to maintain outside appearance.
You know there are only three Garden Ridges in the state. Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro. So even GR is not too common.

photos of Garden Ridges

Garden Ridge Greensboro
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The typical Garden Ridge store measures 125,000 square feet. While IKEA store average about 300,000 square feet, much of that space is for warehouse and showrooms so the size of IKEA stores are a little misleading.

Furnitureland South in High Point is even bigger than IKEA. It's a complex of four large buildings. The architecture is more attractive as well.

http://blog.furniturelandsouth.com/w...012/10/FLS.jpg
http://www.ashfordsuites.com/wp-cont...08-31_1335.jpg
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:04 AM
 
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You know there are only three Garden Ridges in the state. Charlotte, Raleigh and Greensboro. So even GR is not too common.



The typical Garden Ridge store measures 125,000 square feet. While IKEA store average about 300,000 square feet, much of that space is for warehouse and showrooms so the size of IKEA stores are a little misleading.
You're the one who brought up GR and started comparing it to Ikea! The warehouse portion of Ikea isn't larger than the showroom portion. Both floors are roughly the same size. You do know that you can purchase many items in the showroom, right?
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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You're the one who brought up GR and started comparing it to Ikea! The warehouse portion of Ikea isn't larger than the showroom portion. Both floors are roughly the same size. You do know that you can purchase many items in the showroom, right?
There are three sections in IKEA. The warehouse, showroom and actual home decor section. The IKEA home decor section is quite small when compared to Garden Ridge where 100% of the store is home decor. If Garden Ridge added a warehouse and showroom section, it would be larger than IKEA. When I went to IKEA I saw this massive store on the outside but was shocked when I saw that the actual home decor section was much smaller.
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:15 AM
 
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There are three sections in IKEA. The warehouse, showroom and actual home decor section. The IKEA home decor section is quite small when compared to Garden Ridge where 100% of the store is home decor. If Garden Ridge added a warehouse and showroom section, it would be larger than IKEA. When I went to IKEA I saw this massive store on the outside but was shocked when I saw that the actual home decor section was much smaller.
I'm VERY well versed in Ikeas. I've been to numerous ones up and down the east coast. They're all not exactly the same. The home decor section is on the warehouse floor and many people consider it part of the warehouse. Their focus isn't on home decor. It's on the furniture and then the home not home decor. In many parts of the world, home decor doesn't exist or must be functional. People don't live in 2,500 square foot homes in the downtown of many cities in Europe. Not many plantation sized homes in Europe outside of the castles. And who would put Ikea furniture in a castle?
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Honestly it's not about whether the Triad and other metros between 1 and 2 million people can support an IKEA because I think they can. It's about their marketing strategy which is similar to the grocery store chain Trader Joe's. Like IKEA, TJ is really selective where they open stores. TJ only build one or two stores in two to four cities in a state. Sure any city can support a Trader Joes because store prices are cheap. In fact most can support multiple stores in their city. But they choose not to have a store on every corner like Harris Teeter or Food Lion. It's about creating excitement and hype for their stores and products. They want shopping there to be an experience and its a successful strategy. People want what they don't have and thats why people will drive two hours just to shop at a Trader Joes. Honestly there is nothing special about the products in IKEA or Trader Joes. If you look on Walmart and Target's website, you'll see they sell similar trendy home decor, furniture and lighting. It's a marketing strategy, not about which metros can support IKEA.

Just a quick look at Target's lighting section and you'll see they have the same kind of stuff IKEA has.

http://www.target.com/c/lamps-lighti...tc=829636|null

very IKEA like.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/LumiSource...-Lamp/21708865

http://www.walmart.com/browse/bedroo...FC2BedroomSets

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aspire-Asp...ndingMethod=rr

http://www.walmart.com/ip/James-Mart...anity/22055480

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aspire-Asp...ndingMethod=rr

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Old 01-11-2013, 07:29 AM
 
Location: The South
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I understand the threshold is 2 million for a store in a metro (CMSA/MSA). They put them in markets on the smaller end of the minimum... Austin, Salt Lake, New Haven...
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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I don't really get the point of this thread at all. Are we somehow attempting to measure a city's worth by whether it can support an IKEA store? Really? They do have web site where you can order their stuff from anywhere you have an internet connection, you know. No store needed!
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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I order online sometimes but not everyone wants to wait several days to a week for something to ship or pay shipping and handling fees. Yes you can have items shipped faster but that cost extra as well.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Wait... so what are we talking about here, again? That the Triad should have an IKEA? Or that IKEA isn't that special? Or are we talking about some other chain that I haven't ever heard of?

Basically.... what?
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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I don't really get the point of this thread at all. Are we somehow attempting to measure a city's worth by whether it can support an IKEA store? Really? They do have web site where you can order their stuff from anywhere you have an internet connection, you know. No store needed!
Actually, a lot of its stuff can't be ordered online, particularly smaller items. And on bigger items, shipping is crazy high.

I agree that a lot of similar product can be found elsewhere. That said, we went last spring because I had heard great thing about the Expedit shelf units. They are sturdier and look more like furniture than the the Closetmaid stuff at Target. We were also able to pick up a kids table and chair set for super cheap that wasn't a)plastic or b)covered with licensed characters, which is all I see around here in similar price ranges.

But I also don't really understand the thread. Lots of places can support an IKEA, but it's pure marketing strategy on their end.
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