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Old 05-07-2015, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Do you realize that the GSO Grasshoppers are single A and the WS Dash are A-advanced, or "high A"? So why would High Point push to compete directly with either? The HiToms are a collegiate summer league team, unaffiliated with MiLB, and there are several tiers of the minors between where they are and single A (including short-season and rookie leagues).
If High Point wants to get the kind of return on its investment in this stadium it needs to be a higher A league team in my opinion. I don't think it would compete with Greensboro though. Greensboro doesn't need High Point residents to support its Grasshopper team and vice versa. Baseball is pretty popular in this area. High Point is trying. The city doesn't want its downtown to only be defined by furniture showrooms. The question is will a ballpark be the answer? That remains to be seen. If High Point really wants to make its downtown stand out and create excitement, may be it should focus on feasible urban projects different from what is being built in Greensboro and Winston-Salem. There is a lot of great potential. Clearly High Point isn't going to see the kind of projects on the scale of whats going up around the ballparks in its two larger neighbors.

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Old 05-07-2015, 10:03 PM
 
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If High Point wants to get the kind of return on its investment in this stadium it needs to be a higher A league team in my opinion. I don't think it would compete with Greensboro though. Greensboro doesn't need High Point residents to support its Grasshopper team and vice versa. Baseball is pretty popular in this area. High Point is trying. The city doesn't want its downtown to only be defined by furniture showrooms. The question is will a ballpark be the answer? That remains to be seen. If High Point really wants to make its downtown stand out and create excitement, may be it should focus on feasible urban projects different from what is being built in Greensboro and Winston-Salem. There is a lot of great potential. Clearly High Point isn't going to see the kind of projects on the scale of whats going up around the ballparks in its two larger neighbors.
Too late.
There are three types of buildings in downtown High Point; furniture showrooms, furniture showrooms under construction, and businesses that will someday close to be converted into a furniture showroom.
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Old 05-07-2015, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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I never heard the specifics of the mall sale. Are you saying Sears & Dillards still own their respective spaces? I'm aware Sears, JC Penny, and Belk are gone and Dillards closed the 2nd level and was an outlet store.
Exactly. The N&R had a good piece on it: Oak Hollow Mall remains stuck - News-Record.com: Local Business HPU is stuck due to Dillard's and Sears (which has been closed for at least couples years now) holding out.
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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If High Point wants to get the kind of return on its investment in this stadium it needs to be a higher A league team in my opinion. I don't think it would compete with Greensboro though. Greensboro doesn't need High Point residents to support its Grasshopper team and vice versa. Baseball is pretty popular in this area. High Point is trying. The city doesn't want its downtown to only be defined by furniture showrooms. The question is will a ballpark be the answer? That remains to be seen. If High Point really wants to make its downtown stand out and create excitement, may be it should focus on feasible urban projects different from what is being built in Greensboro and Winston-Salem. There is a lot of great potential. Clearly High Point isn't going to see the kind of projects on the scale of whats going up around the ballparks in its two larger neighbors.
I don't know what you're trying to say. Look at the map: Teams by Geographical Location | MiLB.com Official Info | The Official Site of Minor League Baseball The crescent from greater Raleigh to Charlotte is already well-represented with minor league teams, and the idea of putting a third single A team in the Triad is pretty silly. The RDU CSA is larger and only contains two minor league teams. Same goes for Charlotte.

I would argue that High Point would be well served by following the opposite of your advice. It's a smaller town than WS or GSO. Go smaller scale with the park and try to keep costs low. That seems like what they're trying to do (the first part, anyway), and I think that's the right move.
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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I also recall talk of a downtown convention center and arena. The primary tenant would be hpu. The problem is that there is very little available land for large scale projects. Downtown is built out with showrooms
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:46 PM
 
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Exactly. The N&R had a good piece on it: Oak Hollow Mall remains stuck - News-Record.com: Local Business HPU is stuck due to Dillard's and Sears (which has been closed for at least couples years now) holding out.
This is High Point's biggest problem; by the time they decide to implement a plan it's about 20 years too late. I thought HP was finally going to turn the corner when OH Mall opened. I was wrong.
I guess Sears & Dillards holding out are causing rezoning issues? Seems HPU could follow through with their plans and lock Dillards out from having inside mall access.
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